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Installing 5100's -Should I level some or leave stock rake if towing??

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Old 08-11-2020, 12:19 AM
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Talked to Bilstein tech via email about doing rears only, was told doing rears and keeping fronts stock is done all the time...
Yes, that is the advice they gave me and I followed. Truck and TT rides level after WDH set up
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Also fixin to replace ours with a set of Bilstein's. I decided to go with the 4600's instead of the 5100's. We tow a 5th wheel and it rides level when towing so I'm leaving the 2 ish inch rake there as not to have it squat when towing.
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Originally Posted by 13EBF150
Also fixin to replace ours with a set of Bilstein's. I decided to go with the 4600's instead of the 5100's. We tow a 5th wheel and it rides level when towing so I'm leaving the 2 ish inch rake there as not to have it squat when towing.
You do have the option to install the 5100's at stock height as far as i've read.
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Originally Posted by [F2C]MaDMaXX
You do have the option to install the 5100's at stock height as far as i've read.
Yes, aware of that.
Talked to Bilstein tech today re 4600's verses 5100's as found a number of comparison reviews on line that stated they have different internal design characteristics and that 5100 had stiffer ride.
I had understood from my past research they had same design internally, only difference being the 5100 has longer stroke to handle raised trucks and plus front strut is adjustabie. Tech confirmed that is the case - ride and handling should be the same.
So have decided to have all 4 5100's installed. Will leave fronts at stock height as I am doing this to improve ride and towing.

Thanks for the feedback and input.
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Originally Posted by BernieT
Yes, aware of that.
Talked to Bilstein tech today re 4600's verses 5100's as found a number of comparison reviews on line that stated they have different internal design characteristics and that 5100 had stiffer ride.
I had understood from my past research they had same design internally, only difference being the 5100 has longer stroke to handle raised trucks and plus front strut is adjustabie. Tech confirmed that is the case - ride and handling should be the same.
So have decided to have all 4 5100's installed. Will leave fronts at stock height as I am doing this to improve ride and towing.

Thanks for the feedback and input.
Yeah, i had read, including on Bilstein's website, that the 4600 and 5100 were the same, except the ability to extend further (for lifts) and then there was mention of the internal valving change for more unsprung mass. So you're saying the tech confirmed the 5100's are a stiffer ride/damping due to the aforementioned valving?
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Originally Posted by [F2C]MaDMaXX
Yeah, i had read, including on Bilstein's website, that the 4600 and 5100 were the same, except the ability to extend further (for lifts) and then there was mention of the internal valving change for more unsprung mass. So you're saying the tech confirmed the 5100's are a stiffer ride/damping due to the aforementioned valving?
No, Bilstein tech said 4600 and 5100 had same internal desing, only difference is longer stroke and outside appearance.
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Originally Posted by BernieT
No, Bilstein tech said 4600 and 5100 had same internal desing, only difference is longer stroke and outside appearance.
Oh, then you saying you were getting the 5100's to run at stock height confused me.
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Originally Posted by [F2C]MaDMaXX
Oh, then you saying you were getting the 5100's to run at stock height confused me.
Going with 5100's as they have already shipped from tire rack So if we're to send them back, will end up cost me more. Was like 40$ difference between 4600 and 5100's.
Plus Silver 5100's will look better on my truck than yellow/black 4600's.
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Originally Posted by BernieT
Going with 5100's as they have already shipped from tire rack So if we're to send them back, will end up cost me more. Was like 40$ difference between 4600 and 5100's.
Plus Silver 5100's will look better on my truck than yellow/black 4600's.
Got ya, and thanks for clarifying and checking with Bilstein, i'm sure i'll be doing this upgrade at some point, but wasn't fully clear on the two shocks.
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To someone else's comment if you install a leveling kit on your truck, you will most likely want to tow with a weight distribution hitch.
I changed my truck's suspension mostly for appearance and front ground clearance (to remove rake). I want to be able to put slightly larger tires underneath the truck, and I am not always towing.

For example, my truck is leveled with add-a-leafs, however on this trip to the tail of the dragon with a 24' V-Nose loaded down with 4 Harleys (I believe it was roughly 6000-7000lbs all in) we had a little bit of sag still present in the rear.



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