Gas SD limits
03-04-2019, 08:59 AM
#21
Thats good news on the horses. The problem some are running into is that they have B plates from IL, and are over their registration and that is how they are getting nailed. They have cameras looking at the traffic and if they spot a pickup hauling a fifth wheel with B plates and it is over a F150/1500 series they get called into the scales, they also have weigh as you go in the road so they know if the truck is over the tags.
So to put into perspective if what I am looking for. The trailer that we have in mind to purchase in a few years is a Montana High Country 364BH. https://www.keystonerv.com/fifth-whe...h-fifth-wheel/
It has a 3200 pound pin weight with 20% of GVWR, Of course thats max weight, but it is how I roll, what is the MOST that trailer will have on the pin/ball. The UVW on it is 12,843 pounds. Their specs show the pin at 2730 pounds, which seems kind of high for 12,843. This is a 1 ton trailer no matter how you look at it, and I could probably get by with a single wheel truck, but duals will make for a more stable tow. This is why I was wondering how well the gas engine will hold up to this kind of tow. It's a pretty good sized trailer.
The 6.2 gas compared to the 7.3 diesel, pretty equal or not?
On one hand, I more than likely can pay cash for the older truck, but above 10K then I have to look to finance the balance, and it would be easier to finance the newer truck than a 20 YO one. If I can find one under 10K with a decent body and engine, I can always improve the interior, and beef up the trans, provided Brian is still building the 4R100. Some decent deals, 1100 miles from here!
So to put into perspective if what I am looking for. The trailer that we have in mind to purchase in a few years is a Montana High Country 364BH. https://www.keystonerv.com/fifth-whe...h-fifth-wheel/
It has a 3200 pound pin weight with 20% of GVWR, Of course thats max weight, but it is how I roll, what is the MOST that trailer will have on the pin/ball. The UVW on it is 12,843 pounds. Their specs show the pin at 2730 pounds, which seems kind of high for 12,843. This is a 1 ton trailer no matter how you look at it, and I could probably get by with a single wheel truck, but duals will make for a more stable tow. This is why I was wondering how well the gas engine will hold up to this kind of tow. It's a pretty good sized trailer.
The 6.2 gas compared to the 7.3 diesel, pretty equal or not?
On one hand, I more than likely can pay cash for the older truck, but above 10K then I have to look to finance the balance, and it would be easier to finance the newer truck than a 20 YO one. If I can find one under 10K with a decent body and engine, I can always improve the interior, and beef up the trans, provided Brian is still building the 4R100. Some decent deals, 1100 miles from here!
03-04-2019, 12:45 PM
#22
I get where you are coming from on plates. In Ohio, it's just is it a non commercial and then 150 250 or 350. No set weights for us here, just nominal classification or 1/2, 3/4, or 1 ton. The weights come in on commercial tags.
The part about 6.2 handling it ok, I would say yes, its 430lbs of torque and 385hp, so it's close to a stock 7.3 in output and the new transmissions make a huge difference. With 4.30 gears I dont think I would be too concerned.
The part about 6.2 handling it ok, I would say yes, its 430lbs of torque and 385hp, so it's close to a stock 7.3 in output and the new transmissions make a huge difference. With 4.30 gears I dont think I would be too concerned.
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03-04-2019, 04:24 PM
#23
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I would look into a newer truck, gas or diesel and stay away from the older stuff. Not that they are bad, they have just made a lot of improvements. Only you can decide what you can afford, but towing that heavy, I'm sure you know a diesel would be better but the gasser would do it just fine.
03-04-2019, 07:40 PM
#24
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I would look into a newer truck, gas or diesel and stay away from the older stuff. Not that they are bad, they have just made a lot of improvements. Only you can decide what you can afford, but towing that heavy, I'm sure you know a diesel would be better but the gasser would do it just fine.