Kyle Reeves

hey guys,

Im buying a toy hauler to go with my 3.5 ecoboost f150. I've got all the max towing options, etc so I can tow 11,000lbs, will use a good weight distribution hitch. Most of the toy hauler models i'm interested in are 19feet, between 8-9k fully loaded. like this one: https://www.genesissupremerv.com/med...2c51e056e8.pdf

I'm comfortable with that load on my f150, but when i went to see one personally, what threw me off was how TALL these new models are. Its over 12 feet tall! Is that a concern?

Ricktwuhk

Yes, and you can't tow 11,000 pounds. Read some threads. Payload...

12 feet tall is huge.

Sweetlou

You should be fine towing that model.

12ft high is usually to the top of the AC unit, not to the roof of the rig. It probably rides on axles and leaf, not torsion, so it will ride higher.

Lou

acdii

Well, its only a foot higher than my Coleman. At least it isn't 13'6" like some 5th wheels. Like Rick said, you can't tow 11K with the F150, at least not a travel trailer, the maximum travel trailer weight properly set up is 9400 pounds.

Flamingtaco

You'll be at the low end of that 8-9k with an 8200 GVWR, so watch your weights. As far as pulling it, frontal area determines the energy required to pull it, height determines side loading.

Ford says 60sqft frontal area for a bumper pull with an F150. If your trailer exceeds that, you may want to watch your temp gauge closely.

MikeD134

I could with my F150 1907 payload 13% tongue=1430lbs Wife and I 320lbs 100lb misc in the truck the rest of the crap goes in the trailer. One caveat I would not take it into the mountains just not enough engine braking with 3.5 liters at 10 to 1 compression compared to a diesel at 20 to 1 and 6 liters. I'm not worried about getting close to sticker payload Ford has already reduced the safe payload number on the sticker for guys like me

acdii

The receiver is only rated at 1320 pounds, with a 100 pound WDH that limits the tongue weight to 1220 pounds. 1220 divided by .13 come in just under 9400. At 1430 pounds plus hitch weight, you have exceeded the receiver rating by a couple hundred pounds. Truck can have plenty of payload, by you are always limited by the lowest rated part, which in this case is the receiver.

Maury82

At 19ft, you should be able to handle up to the max cargo capacity of that trailer.

My trailer is 37ft, second A/C in the bedroom, and max out at 9,900lbs, hitch weight is approximately 1,250lbs loaded, and 10,000lbs travel trailer is the max weight and length you will likely want to tow with the most capable 1/2 ton...that's ~95% of travel trailers out there. At that weight, if I'm concerned about being a few pounds over my hitch ratings (I'm not) I can just remove a 55lbs full propane tank...
-(85lbs) WDH + 55lbs propane = - 30lbs loss weight if you are that press about hitch weight.

The problem a lot of people have with their 1/2 ton, is their truck doesn't tow and handle its upper rating in a travel trailer very well, even when set up properly, and they give their testimonial of what a 1/2 ton can't tow and handle.

That's like rating a football team based on the second and third team players, vs the first team starters.

You will never get the best travel trailer towing and handling out of a truck with P-rated tires and cheap flip-flops for trailer tires China bombs tires. That's a recipe for premature sway, side to side jiggling sensations/squishing around, and lower wind speed handling problems.

MikeD134

You hit the nail on the head. I can push sideways on the back end of 150 with P tires and the truck gets to rocking and rolling as the sidewalls flex. The same wheels with LT tires and there's barely any motion.

Maury82

The sidewalls of those cheap trailer tires are the same way...soft as cotton.

When I had Goodyear replace my stock China bombs with GY Endurance, I compared both tires side by side by squeezing the sidewalls, and I was able to almost fully compress the stock china bombs, but could barely budge the Endurance.

The endurance sidewalls were twice as thick, and much stiffer.

I can imagine the wind rocking that trailer from side to side, and wagging and trying to rotate the back of the truck on soft P rated tires, that would cause me to **** my pants.

I have GY Wranglers LT-C on the truck, but they are slippery on wet roads, so I'm putting them on E-Bay and upgrading to Michelin Defender LTX load rand D for even more higher wind resistant to the trailer trying to push around the rear end.

Im looking to come as close to the "as a unit" feeling like a Pro Pride gives between the trailer and truck as I can. I'm aiming for the best possible towing, braking and stability that a 1/2 ton truck can offer.

Dealing with higher wind gusts pushing as a unit is a lot easier to handle than wind induced swaying.