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p.meier 08-19-2020 05:27 PM

enough truck ???
 
Enough truck ?, I was looking @ a 2020 F150 xlt. specs. 156" wheel base, 3.5L V6 ehcoboost,max trailer tow package. Sticker says 2030# payload.3800# rear axle.
trailer specs. 6700# dry wt., trailer GVWR 7600#, hitch wt. 880#. 29'11" front to back. 26.6' trailer. Can't spring for a F250. Am I within reasonable limits with this rig.
Was going to add 1 leaf spring to each side, not overlaods.and of course a wdh. I will have to be careful loading..Leafs will add approx. 1000# to payload Thanks

Flamingtaco 08-19-2020 05:43 PM

Leaves and bags do not legally add anything to the payload, your payload will remain as rated by Ford, minus the weight you add with springs or bags, and anything else you put in the truck. All you really get with those products is a level truck, but with a WDH you will get back most of the rake, so those aren't all that useful outside of hauling things over the rear axle, like stuff in the bed, or fifth wheel and goose neck trailers.

You are well within the limits as is. Even if you loaded the trailer to it's limit and it had a 15% tongue, you'd have 890lb of payload remaining for occupants and cargo. As is it appears your trailer is running the typical 13% for a max tongue weight closer to a half ton, but better weigh it to be certain of those numbers if you have not done so.

marshallr 08-19-2020 05:46 PM

Modifying the suspension doesn't change payload. It just makes the truck sit level when it is overloaded. If it's overloaded with factory suspension it is still overloaded after you modify the suspension.

I think you'll be fine as is. I've seen 3/4 tons with diesel engines with less payload.

In my experience it is no more expensive to buy a gas 3/4 ton, and often less expensive once you start looking at 1/2 tons rated for loads that heavy. I'd go 3/4 ton if I needed that much capability and was getting a wheelbase that long. Have you actually priced 3/4 tons or are you assuming they cost more.

The diesel engine is a $10,000 option and reduces payload by about 800 lbs. But the gas engines are very comparably priced with 1/2 ton trucks.

p.meier 08-19-2020 05:54 PM

Cost
 
Here in Houston they want about 8k more for a F250 xlt

SpencerPJ 08-19-2020 06:49 PM

I think you'll be fine as well. The longer bed will help with that longer trailer too. Plan on getting a good weight distribution hitch. Personally I have a Reese, I'd go to a equalizer 4 point for that trailer, IMO. Good luck

MikeD134 08-19-2020 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by p.meier (Post 6682188)
Enough truck ?, I was looking @ a 2020 F150 xlt. specs. 156" wheel base, 3.5L V6 ehcoboost,max trailer tow package. Sticker says 2030# payload.3800# rear axle.

Nice payload with that longer steel frame. Is it just a regular cab or super cab?
To answer your question yes it's enough truck just add the WDH as others have mentioned

p.meier 08-19-2020 07:19 PM

That truck is a super crew

MikeD134 08-19-2020 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by p.meier (Post 6682283)
That truck is a super crew

4X2?

smokeywren 08-19-2020 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by p.meier (Post 6682188)
. Sticker says 2030# payload.3800# rear axle.
trailer specs.
6700# dry wt.,

Dry weight is a useless spec. Ignore it.


trailer GVWR 7600#,
Use that number for the estimated weight of the wet and loaded trailer.


hitch wt. 880#.
Useless, misleading spec. To get a good estimate of hitch weight, assume tongue weight of 13% of trailer GVWR, plus 100# for a good WD hitch.
7600 x 13% = 988 +100 = 1,088 = wet and loaded hitch weight.

So 2030 gross payload minus 1088 hitch weight = 942# remaining payload for people, pets, tools, toys, cooler, firewood, and any other weight you haul in the truck when towing.

[quote]Am I within reasonable limits with this rig[/quote.]

Reasonable, yes, if you can persuade DW and the kiddos that you cannot haul much heavy stuff in the truck when towing.

And use the CAT scales for what they were intended. When on the road on your first camping trip, fill up with gas then weigh the wet and loaded F-150 with everybody and everything in it. Add the weights on the steer and drive axles to get GVW, then compare GVW to GVWR of the truck. Then you will know how much wiggle room you have for DW to add more weight in the truck - such as those pretty rocks she saw. ;)

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...Leafs will add approx. 1000# to payload
No, suspension mods do not change GVWR or payload capacity. As marshallr indicated, suspension mods can help level the overloaded truck, but the truck will still be overloaded.

MikeD134 08-19-2020 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by p.meier (Post 6682188)
Enough truck ?, I was looking @ a 2020 F150 xlt. specs. 156" wheel base, 3.5L V6 ehcoboost,max trailer tow package. Sticker says 2030# payload.3800# rear axle.
trailer specs. 6700# dry wt., trailer GVWR 7600#, hitch wt. 880#. 29'11" front to back. 26.6' trailer. Can't spring for a F250. Am I within reasonable limits with this rig.
Was going to add 1 leaf spring to each side, not overlaods.and of course a wdh. I will have to be careful loading..Leafs will add approx. 1000# to payload Thanks

You sure about those trailer weights? Usually you have 1500-2000lbs of capacity between dry weight and the max GVWR.


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