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Old Sep 24, 2024 | 08:03 PM
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My choice would be a 5.0 with 3.73 gears and a max payload package if I had the option to buy a brand new truck from the dealer. From everything I’ve seen towing with half tons is that you usually max out your payload long before you do the tow rating so I’d look for the highest payload rating I could find.

The 2.7, 3.5, & 5.0 will all pull your trailerjust fine and usually gets around the same fuel mileage while towing. The EcoBoost will make better power down low due to the turbos while the 5.0s love to turn the rpm’s while towing. My 5.0 with the 6 speed loves to cruise at 3-4K rpm’s with a 7-8k lb. travel trailer.

Also with the amount of pulling you’re looking at doing I would probably look into at least replacing the rear shocks with Bilsteins 5100’s and maybe keep a rear anti sway bar in mind for the future. Add a good weight distribution hitch to the list and the truck should be really stable while pulling. These are just the things I would do.

LT tires vs P tires is debatable and kinda just comes down preference as either will work fine with their own advantages and disadvantages over the other.
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Old Sep 24, 2024 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Sherman-GT350
Tow through any mountains and the 5.0 is a dog. Definitely recommend an ecoboost if its primary job is towing.
Yeah just bought a Roush Supercharger kit to help with this as you definitely feel the power start to really drop at 8,000 ft elevation. Went from Creed, CO to Lake City, CO which gets you up around 12,000 ft elevation going over a mountain and even without a trailer it feels like the truck has only half its power. I’d love to pull my camper further into Colorado from where we usually stay but I’ve been hesitant to do so before due to this reason.
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Old Sep 25, 2024 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by stewie373737
Thank you for the great feedback. I’ve driven 2 of 3, still need to take the 5.0 out. 2.7 was great, 3.5 didn’t do anything for me. 600 tongue weight + 600pds in kids, wife and dogs leaves little for horse gear and cargo to stay under smaller 2.7 payload limits. Really appreciate the input.
Great you are looking at truck payload as well.

Originally Posted by JaseBosto
2024 F150s all come equipped to tow. The optional tow/haul package that is only available on 3.5 or 5.0 engines is only required for the ridiculously high advertised towing capacity. For example, a 2024 F150 Supercrew 5.0 4x4 5.5ft bed w/3.73 gears is rated for 10,300 lbs towing and the optional tow/haul bumps that up to 12,900 lbs which is insane.

There seem to be very few 5.0s and 3.5s built without the basic optional tow/haul package. That in my opinion is plenty for your needs. I've towed weighing close to 13klbs and had no problems on the hilly back roads in ski country in upstate NY. If I ever needed more than that, likely I would jump up to a F250 before I'd buy the Max tow package.

2.7 is a great engine. In 2024 they are rated between 7,400 lbs and 8,400 lbs which is well beyond your needs.

In any case, you can get whatever engine suits you and theres no need for the tow/haul package. Just need the trailer brake controller.

Can't really go wrong with any engine, but the 2.7 is my recommendation.
OP commented that the 2.7 leaves precious little truck payload available once loaded-and has kids that only grow bigger and heavier. The extra 450lbs offered by a 5.0 makes more sense. 2.7 owning buddy has towed a car with his truck and said it struggled in the interstate hills of VA.

Originally Posted by 23 F-150 XL
From my F-150 notes file. Consider the addition of a Mishimoto or Hayden trans cooler. I have the 53B Towing Package which doesn't have this, but I want to add it before any trips up steep mountains towing my camper or hot summer towing. The Max Towing option probably already has the auxiliary trans cooler.
I track transmission temperatures. I've seen in the 210-218 range towing on highways with nothing more than the regular tow package. 53C. Historically Ford has relied on the 5.0 for the Max Tow. I suspect its wary of the additional heat load of the Turbos on the drivetrain
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Old Sep 25, 2024 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by henfield
2.7 owning buddy has towed a car with his truck and said it struggled in the interstate hills of VA.
And I towed 8,000 lbs with my previous 2.7 and there was no struggle what so ever.
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Old Sep 27, 2024 | 02:16 PM
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It's all about payload. Any F150 motor will do the job. The light duty F150 frame (2.7 L) will be ok. And yes on occasion the 2.7L and light duty frame will do fine with a heavier trailer. When not trailing you will be really impressed with the power and fuel mileage. When traveling with the 4000# horse trailer what else will the truck be carrying? One passenger? Cargo? And always a but, how long do intend on keeping the truck? And the future: what is the likelihood of a regular use larger trailer? Four passengers? Best to go with 3.5L or V8 (both sophisticated motors), which gets you the more robust medium duty frame, and higher payload CCC rating.
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Old Sep 27, 2024 | 03:53 PM
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Thank you everyone for the input, greatly appreciated.
I’ve decided on 3.5 with tow package. Should close the deal next week
Cheers
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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 10:29 AM
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Ensure you look at the yellow door sticker for Cargo Carrying Capacity, the higher the number the more payload you can carry on the vehicle.
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Old Oct 1, 2024 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Multi68stang
Yeah just bought a Roush Supercharger kit to help with this as you definitely feel the power start to really drop at 8,000 ft elevation. Went from Creed, CO to Lake City, CO which gets you up around 12,000 ft elevation going over a mountain and even without a trailer it feels like the truck has only half its power. I’d love to pull my camper further into Colorado from where we usually stay but I’ve been hesitant to do so before due to this reason.
If you're at elevation over 6k, might want to run e85 for the power boost it gives you if your 5.0 is flex fuel.
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Old Oct 3, 2024 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by stewie373737
Thank you everyone for the input, greatly appreciated.
I’ve decided on 3.5 with tow package. Should close the deal next week
Cheers
Lets see a picture of your new ride when you have it!
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Old Oct 3, 2024 | 04:39 PM
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