Does payload rating include a full tank of gas?
04-21-2016, 07:58 AM
#21
Am I looking at this wrong? My payload sticker says 1796 based on 5528 curb weight. I weighed the truck with a full tank and me in it and no wife, cargo etc. It weighed 6200! If I subtract that from my GVWR of 7650 I have a 1450 payload. My trailer tongue weight is 1040 loaded, so that leaves me 410 for wife, dog, gear etc. I removed the camper shell (200) to give me a little more room for safety. Sounds right to me, does it to anybody else?
So somewhere, somehow you've added 672#. You mention the shell weighing 200#, so 472# to go. What else (you need to think about everything) has been added or is in the truck? Different wheels? Different tires? Toolbox or tools? Umbrella? Coffee cup? Sunglasses? Maps? Mats? Mud Flaps? Spray in liner? And so on.
I do back-packing camping. Unlike car camping weight really matters. It is an interesting analysis seeing just how fast stuff adds up that you are carrying on your back and I need to weigh everything to see how many ounces are being added which add up to many pounds I have to carry up every hill and down every valley, step by step. While the scales are different, the idea is the same...
04-21-2016, 10:06 AM
#22
Senior Member
The wording on my door sticker is a little more explicit: "The combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed..."
"Occupants" includes the driver. As far as I know "passengers" does not.
04-22-2016, 01:18 PM
#23
Senior Member
Curb weight does not include the driver. Payload is everything above curb weight.
Towing capacity does include 2 150 lbs people no extra weight on a Half ton.
http://media.caranddriver.com/images...s-original.jpg
Towing capacity does include 2 150 lbs people no extra weight on a Half ton.
http://media.caranddriver.com/images...s-original.jpg
04-23-2016, 04:10 PM
#24
Well, in the 2016 F150 complete manual under the section Towing/hauling this is what they say...
"Maximum capabilities shown are for properly equipped vehicles with required equipment and a 150-lb. (68-kg) driver. Weight of additional options, equipment, passengers and cargo must be deducted from this weight. For additional information, see your Ford of Canada Dealer"
"Maximum capabilities shown are for properly equipped vehicles with required equipment and a 150-lb. (68-kg) driver. Weight of additional options, equipment, passengers and cargo must be deducted from this weight. For additional information, see your Ford of Canada Dealer"
04-23-2016, 05:22 PM
#25
Senior Member
Omfg...
05-01-2016, 08:22 PM
#26
i think it works like this:
1. Payload is what the truck can carry. How much weight you can put in the cab, in the bed, on the roof, on the racks, on the hitch, before the GVWR and axle ratings are exceeded.
2. Towing capacity is how much the truck can pull. The weight of the fully loaded trailer and all of the stuff jammed into it.
3. Combined Weight Rating - the weight of the truck, the trailer, and all of the junk crammed into both.
Since the hitch weight of the trailer (approx. 13% if you load it right) gets added into #1 above, the GVWR is likely to be exceeded before the towing capacity is reached. The trailer has its own GVWR that must not be exceeded either.
1. Payload is what the truck can carry. How much weight you can put in the cab, in the bed, on the roof, on the racks, on the hitch, before the GVWR and axle ratings are exceeded.
2. Towing capacity is how much the truck can pull. The weight of the fully loaded trailer and all of the stuff jammed into it.
3. Combined Weight Rating - the weight of the truck, the trailer, and all of the junk crammed into both.
Since the hitch weight of the trailer (approx. 13% if you load it right) gets added into #1 above, the GVWR is likely to be exceeded before the towing capacity is reached. The trailer has its own GVWR that must not be exceeded either.
05-12-2016, 02:47 PM
#27
Senior Member
If 150# causes damage to your vehicle then you way over-loaded it. Quit worrying about 150#. Or go on a diet and lose weight, either way.
05-12-2016, 02:48 PM
#28
Senior Member
Your payload sticker reflects the weight of the vehicle with the options specified on the sticker as it left the assembly line.
So somewhere, somehow you've added 672#. You mention the shell weighing 200#, so 472# to go. What else (you need to think about everything) has been added or is in the truck? Different wheels? Different tires? Toolbox or tools? Umbrella? Coffee cup? Sunglasses? Maps? Mats? Mud Flaps? Spray in liner? And so on.
I do back-packing camping. Unlike car camping weight really matters. It is an interesting analysis seeing just how fast stuff adds up that you are carrying on your back and I need to weigh everything to see how many ounces are being added which add up to many pounds I have to carry up every hill and down every valley, step by step. While the scales are different, the idea is the same...
So somewhere, somehow you've added 672#. You mention the shell weighing 200#, so 472# to go. What else (you need to think about everything) has been added or is in the truck? Different wheels? Different tires? Toolbox or tools? Umbrella? Coffee cup? Sunglasses? Maps? Mats? Mud Flaps? Spray in liner? And so on.
I do back-packing camping. Unlike car camping weight really matters. It is an interesting analysis seeing just how fast stuff adds up that you are carrying on your back and I need to weigh everything to see how many ounces are being added which add up to many pounds I have to carry up every hill and down every valley, step by step. While the scales are different, the idea is the same...
05-12-2016, 07:44 PM
#29
Junior Member
We can debate forever about what's included in payload. Bottom line you need to weigh everything and make sure your numbers are good before you get out on the road. If not then at least put a sign on your rig saying you're overloaded so I can steer clear of you.
05-17-2016, 04:50 PM
#30