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Old 12-23-2017, 08:46 AM
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A yard of pea gravel can weight from 2,400 to 2,900 pounds, so you had 1,200 - 1,450 lbs. What's your Payload?

A yard of top soil is 1,700 - 2,000 pounds. At 1,700 pounds you were likely over Payload.
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
A yard of top soil is 1,700 - 2,000 pounds. At 1,700 pounds you were likely over Payload.
but it was dry
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So was the heat.
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The range goes from dry to moist. You were over capacity.
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It's not a heavy hauler. Amazon can't make it into one. They don't sell these:



Take a peek at the payload and Rear GAWR sticker on the door. If you don't like what it says, let the vendor deliver the material. If it's every day, buy a trailer.



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One cubic yard of gravel can weigh between 2400-2900 lbs. your truck is not designed to carry this. Heavier springs, Monroe spring assist shocks might help but even a one ton is going to squat to the bump stops if you overload beyond capacity.
Personally, I have a heavy duty trailer for this type of job. If I didn’t and needed to I’d rent one. The truck is designed to pull something like 7000 pounds but nit in the bed itself.
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Rather than altering the truck, you might also consider getting a smallish trailer, with at least a 3500# capacity axle. I have a 6.5X10 that I use to haul mulch and top soil, and just about anything else that I might need to carry. With the truck, you could even opt for a double axle with 7000+ GVWR so that you can haul 2 yards or so of top soil. The place I bought from wouldn't put more than 1 yard of top soil in mine - their rule of thumb - 1 yard per axle for non-commercial trailers. Mulch, no problem. It's pretty light.
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
A yard of pea gravel can weight from 2,400 to 2,900 pounds, so you had 1,200 - 1,450 lbs. What's your Payload?

A yard of top soil is 1,700 - 2,000 pounds. At 1,700 pounds you were likely over Payload.
I've seen numbers as high as 2700 pounds for a yard of top soil, if it's really moist. A couple of sites I looked at gave the range as 2000-2700. So even exceptionally dry, you'd be pushing the limit of the truck.
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1/2 ton = 1000 pounds. With my truck configured as a daily driver, that is all the payload I can actually carry now, so it really is a 1/2 ton truck!

Hey at least your frame didn't Chevy on you.

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Not at Amazon but you can buy your full floater conversion here! Probably cheaper just to swat in a Sterling 10.5https://www.currieenterprises.com/CE-0013FR613535FBTW - full floaters are not inherently stronger than semi-float axles. Most agricultural tractors have semi-float axles and some of these are axles that can handle 10's of thousands of pounds. Yes, they are much beefier than an F-150 axle. A full floater just let's a manufacturer achieve a higher weight rating with lighter parts. Trucks don't put tremendous torque to the axle the way a tractor does, so they don't need a thick drive axle. Since they don't need a thick drive axle the full floater makes sense. On a tractor, the drive torque at the axle can be so high that the axle diameter needed also meets all weight carrying needs. So no benefit to a full floater.
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