Benefit if any Towing 33ft. TT, having HD payload package on 2012 F 150 eco
#11
humblerb...Its a 400cc 4wd grizzly would think about 700 to 800lbs.
BlueOval...tongue weight would be about 950lbs. and the trailer is loaded 8010 max unloaded would be about 6000lb.
RRF150...thanks for info..sounds like your real close to what I will be...I still think I'd get Max tow with the HD package because Max Tow also includes the trailer mirrors, Better radiator, trailer brake controller, upgraded rear bumper that HD package doesn't have....
So how does the HD package ride...Does it ride Rough with the stiffer springs, Unloaded ?
Also what is your gas mileage like unloaded with the HD payload package.
BlueOval...tongue weight would be about 950lbs. and the trailer is loaded 8010 max unloaded would be about 6000lb.
RRF150...thanks for info..sounds like your real close to what I will be...I still think I'd get Max tow with the HD package because Max Tow also includes the trailer mirrors, Better radiator, trailer brake controller, upgraded rear bumper that HD package doesn't have....
So how does the HD package ride...Does it ride Rough with the stiffer springs, Unloaded ?
Also what is your gas mileage like unloaded with the HD payload package.
#12
If you go with the F-150, then you'll need HD payload or you will for sure be over the limit (payload).
I have what you are thinking about, EB with max tow and HD payload. It rides like a truck empty, it is stiffer than non HD payload, but I like it (I personally actually prefer it). I don't think the mileage suffers much because of the HD payload package. I get 21 mpg at a constant 60 mph highway (it drops to about 19.5 @ 70mph), and about 16 in the city. I have averaged 17.5 mpg since I own the truck (4,500 miles) in mixed driving, with more city than highway if you exclude my memorial day weekend camping trip.
I was positively surprised to see 11 mpg towing our travel trailer. It tows great, and that brake controller is the best out there.
Again, get HD payload at a minimum. You may still want to think about a super duty though.
I have what you are thinking about, EB with max tow and HD payload. It rides like a truck empty, it is stiffer than non HD payload, but I like it (I personally actually prefer it). I don't think the mileage suffers much because of the HD payload package. I get 21 mpg at a constant 60 mph highway (it drops to about 19.5 @ 70mph), and about 16 in the city. I have averaged 17.5 mpg since I own the truck (4,500 miles) in mixed driving, with more city than highway if you exclude my memorial day weekend camping trip.
I was positively surprised to see 11 mpg towing our travel trailer. It tows great, and that brake controller is the best out there.
Again, get HD payload at a minimum. You may still want to think about a super duty though.
#14
Senior Member/Vietnam Vet
Max Tow and HD payload, plus the extra wheel base will help stabilize the truck for towing. I don't think the ATV plus trailer will be a problem with that combination. Your safety is more important than ride quality which would turn to crap anyway with a Super Duty.
#15
Originally Posted by SkiSmuggs
Max Tow and HD payload, plus the extra wheel base will help stabilize the truck for towing. I don't think the ATV plus trailer will be a problem with that combination. Your safety is more important than ride quality which would turn to crap anyway with a Super Duty.
#16
Senior Member/Vietnam Vet
Okay, so it was an uneducated guess. Still I read posts of those who have gone from Super Duty to F150 and are glad they did. And I am not putting down SD, just saying they are not always necessary.
#17
I plan on buying the EB because it can tow 11,300 lbs as compared to a 5.0 than only can tow 9,500. You guys got me thinking, thanks for that. Cause when I spend the big bucks I don't want to look back and say "woulda, coulda shoulda".
I have a Crossroads zinger 33QB Travel Trailer 8010lbs loaded 950 tongue weight I have anti sway bar and load leveler bars on trailer tongue ....I have been deciding on buying the Ecoboost with Max Trailer towing and Heavy Duty payload package. That will bring it to 11,300 max towing..The HD payload package will give me xtra 600 lbs loaded weight(from 7550lbs. to 8200lbs. payload) along with beefier rear end shocks and springs (so hopefully may not need airbags).
Last week I tried my friends 2011 Eco boost w/o the HD package. It did have towing but didn't think it had the Max Towing because it didn't have telescoping chrome trailer mirrors or the Trailer brake controller. Even so I hooked on to my trailer and pulled for about 20 miles around in 25 to 30 mph. crosswinds. The power to pull seemed fine The front didn't raise up or feel too light, as compared to the 2006 F-150 Triton 5.4 of my sons I tried earlier. I feel with the HD springs and Max tow packages should address any concerns.
The specs compairing both:
F250 with 6.2 gas engine 385 HP. 405 torque F150 ecoboost 365hp. 420torque
F250 wheelbase crewcab 156.2' F150 wB supercrew 156.5"
F250 GVWR (max payload W/O trailer) 10,000lbs. F150 (w/HDpackage) 8200lbs.
F250 GVMR (inc. towing) 19,000lbs. F150 (w/max tow and HD package) 17,100lbs.
Benefit of F-150 ..better gas mileage disadvantage may cost more with xtra options to make it comparable to F250. Guys I'm still searching and haven't really talked with anyone who has a ecoboost with both Max towing and HDpackage towing a 8010lb. loaded trailer along with stuff in the P/U bed of the f-150 wish I could but haven't yet..
Any input good or bad please let me know.
I have a Crossroads zinger 33QB Travel Trailer 8010lbs loaded 950 tongue weight I have anti sway bar and load leveler bars on trailer tongue ....I have been deciding on buying the Ecoboost with Max Trailer towing and Heavy Duty payload package. That will bring it to 11,300 max towing..The HD payload package will give me xtra 600 lbs loaded weight(from 7550lbs. to 8200lbs. payload) along with beefier rear end shocks and springs (so hopefully may not need airbags).
Last week I tried my friends 2011 Eco boost w/o the HD package. It did have towing but didn't think it had the Max Towing because it didn't have telescoping chrome trailer mirrors or the Trailer brake controller. Even so I hooked on to my trailer and pulled for about 20 miles around in 25 to 30 mph. crosswinds. The power to pull seemed fine The front didn't raise up or feel too light, as compared to the 2006 F-150 Triton 5.4 of my sons I tried earlier. I feel with the HD springs and Max tow packages should address any concerns.
The specs compairing both:
F250 with 6.2 gas engine 385 HP. 405 torque F150 ecoboost 365hp. 420torque
F250 wheelbase crewcab 156.2' F150 wB supercrew 156.5"
F250 GVWR (max payload W/O trailer) 10,000lbs. F150 (w/HDpackage) 8200lbs.
F250 GVMR (inc. towing) 19,000lbs. F150 (w/max tow and HD package) 17,100lbs.
Benefit of F-150 ..better gas mileage disadvantage may cost more with xtra options to make it comparable to F250. Guys I'm still searching and haven't really talked with anyone who has a ecoboost with both Max towing and HDpackage towing a 8010lb. loaded trailer along with stuff in the P/U bed of the f-150 wish I could but haven't yet..
Any input good or bad please let me know.
#19
Senior Member
The EB isnt the worry. It will pull that setup all day long. Just have to make sure the truck can safely handle the setup. Ive worked a few wrecks where a TT has flipped a 1/2 ton truck..... come to think of it, they were both chevy 1/2 tons...so never mind, HAHA. But seriously, thats what you need to make sure of is the truck can handle the load. You'll love the EB.
#20
Senior Member
I tow our 33.5' trailer which weighs (actual scale) 8500lbs. I have carried "stuff" and firewood in the bed without a problem but I highly doubt it was anywhere near 6-800 lbs like you're considering. That said, my truck doesn't even struggle. We've gone up some damn steep hills and I'm not sure if the rpms ever went over 3k (def not 4). Our gas mileage is always 9-11 depending on how many hills. So long as we're not in heavy traffic I use Tow/Haul and cruise at 65 every trip no matter the terrain.
If you find that your actual (not dry) weights are UNDER Ford's recommendations I would go for it. If you were very close or over I would personally go with something bigger. I have towed with an insufficient tow vehicle and it really SUCKS!
If you find that your actual (not dry) weights are UNDER Ford's recommendations I would go for it. If you were very close or over I would personally go with something bigger. I have towed with an insufficient tow vehicle and it really SUCKS!
Last edited by mister_d; 06-03-2012 at 02:21 PM.