HI Everyone
I am new to the forum and would like some input from anyone that might have a similar towing setup so i can know what to expect and avoid making any mistakes in my set up.
I am starting an off road tour company. I have a 2015 f150 supercab 4x4 xlt with the 5.0 I have ordered a custom 20 foot by 102" deck over aluminum trailer aprox weight of 2100lbs. On the trailer i will be hauling 4 Honda pioneer 500 sxs vehicles curb weight of 1010lbs each for a total loaded trailer weight of 6140 pounds or 2785kg. this puts me very close to the 2800kg weight requirement for a cvor. With the tongue weight of 10% on the truck i should be well under the 2800kg trailer weight. I hope to avoid having to go through the hassle of needing a cvor. am i correct in thinking i should be under the 2800kg without a problem with the estimated weights? btw i will be using a Weight distributing hitch system to make sure i can keep everything level
If needed i could put the trailer ramps in the truck to shave a bit of weight from the trailer.

Also Would anyone have experience with a similar setup that could give me an idea of how this should tow. I dont have any experience towing this kind of load. I think i have checked all the appropriate boxes to ensure i should have a Good towing set up. any advise from an experienced operator would be appreciated,

also would the sxs's being on a deck over and being higher center of gravity cause any issues in this configuration with sway or anything else. I have spent hours on the phone with MTO officers to ensure i should be good with weights unless i am missing something. I would like to know if this setup will perform well towing as i do not have experience with this kind of setup. and i dont want to have a $30k truck and a 12k trailer with 40k worth of machines and then figure out its not going to work well in a towing configuration Thanks in advance

 

Just a few questions come to mind long before talking about "actual weights" quoted by the manufactures.

1. What tow package does your truck have?
2. Is it properly equipped to tow 6000+ pounds?
3. What is the payload capacity of the truck?
4. Will other items such as customers, extra fuel, ramps, gear, food, coolers, etc. be carried in the truck, trailer or both?
5. For the CVOR, do they base it on the GVWR of the trailer or actual scale weight? Either way, the tongue weight is still part of the trailer's overall weight. The tongue weight is simply carried by the tow vehicle instead of the axles.

 

1 trail have trailer tow package with built in brake contro
2 payload is 2117lbs
3 only items in the truck would be myself and some gear conservative estimate would be 450lbs total
for is based on weight the trailer only transits to the road while hooked up to the truck. So whatever tongue weight is on the truck would come off the trailer. As long as the trailer loaded weight is under 2800kg no cvor is needed. Few on my truck is 7050lbs curb weight is 4800lbs so payload would be right at the 2117 mark

 

Are you sure its 2117 lbs for YOUR truck or is that the generic number you pulled out of the Ford brochure? Its not impossible but thats very high for a 4x4 XLT. Check your yellow door sticker for your trucks actual payload.

The 2016 XL supercab I looked at one day was only 2075.

 

2117lbs payload is right off the door sticker

 

the truck is equipped with the 7050# gvwr package and the trailer tow package which if I understand correctly beefs up the axles capacity and suspension...but I could be wrong on that.

 

sorry about the jiberish reply. Sent that without having my glasses on.
payload on door sticker is 2117lbs
towing capacity according to Ford's chart for a 4x4 f150 super cab with 145wb is 9100lbs
actual weight of my truck off the line is registered at just under 4800lbs gcvwr is 14400lbs. So all that said if i understand correctly with a total loaded trailer weight of 6200lbs with 10% carried in the hitch I should easily be under the 2800kg (6160lb) weight limit before needing the cvor. And I should still have about 1000lbs payload of the 2117lb rated capacity after subtracting the 620lb tongue weight and the 450ĺbs of me and cargo in the truck.from the payload rating of the truck all while also being under the 2800kg trailer weight. I will be close to the limit of trailer weight for the 2800lb cvor limit I will also be 3000lbs below the 9100lb towing capacity and 1000lbs under the payload capacity of the truck and also I should only be at about 11000lbs of the gcvwr of 14400lbs as per Ford's chart. All that considered if I am looking at things properly this setup should tow very well I am hoping as I am within all the specs .... unless I am missing something. Any advise is appreciated as I have no real world hands on experience in towing this type of load...but in theory it should work well if I am looking at everything correctly....thanks again for any input

 

All Supercab 5.0's and 3.5's 4x4's have 7050 lbs GVWR now. The Max-Tow package used to increase GVWR over the standard trucks back in 2014 and ealier, but not anymore.

 

good to know. Thanks. Do you have an opinion on how you think my setup might tow in real life?

 

I am not really sure. My truck is so much different than yours I am not sure how much would translate. Mine is 6161lbs empty and has a 157” wheelbase.

That said, mine tows my 24’ 5500 lb travel trailer extremely well. I’ve never had sway issues and can barely feel people passing me. I do have rear air bags, but I generally only inflate them slightly when towing because it will cause the WDH spring bars to unload. I basically just fill them to the point that the back of the truck just starts to move up. This gives me a little stiffer rear end but doesn’t unload the bars.

Shocks are a huge help. A set of bilstein 4600’s or 5100’s are cheap and will make the truck handle loads MUCH better than stock.