4 pin 7 pin needs and uses.
#1
4 pin 7 pin needs and uses.
Was looking for some info on this and was surprised there isn't a sticky here, so I have a few questions.
I only have a 4 pin on my truck, no tow package.
From my understanding 7 pin basically adds breaking and auxiliary power over a 4pin?
What kind of things would I tow that would use a 4pin?
What kind of things would I tow that would use a 7pin?
I have seen some adapters to convert a 4 pin to 7 / 4 pin combo.
They seem to just plug into your current 4 pin and then you splice some other wires in.
I'm thinking about doing this just to have all bases covered in the event I ever need to haul something so I wont be caught off guard.
Is a brake controller required for a 7 pin or only if the item youre towing needs it (Im guess it would be large campers and such things that would need this)
Aside from the brake controller, is there anything else be needed going from a 4 to 7 pin.
I only have a 4 pin on my truck, no tow package.
From my understanding 7 pin basically adds breaking and auxiliary power over a 4pin?
What kind of things would I tow that would use a 4pin?
What kind of things would I tow that would use a 7pin?
I have seen some adapters to convert a 4 pin to 7 / 4 pin combo.
They seem to just plug into your current 4 pin and then you splice some other wires in.
I'm thinking about doing this just to have all bases covered in the event I ever need to haul something so I wont be caught off guard.
Is a brake controller required for a 7 pin or only if the item youre towing needs it (Im guess it would be large campers and such things that would need this)
Aside from the brake controller, is there anything else be needed going from a 4 to 7 pin.
#2
7 pin is pretty much only there to provide for the brake controller.
Any trailer with electronic brakes you will need a 7 pin connector and brake controller. If the trailer gross weight is over 3000 lbs you should have a brake controller and the trailer should have it's own brakes.
If you convert to a 7 pin connector and have a brake controller you can still tow something smaller without trailer brakes, you just need a 7 pin to 4 pin adapter. They sell them a lot of places.
Any trailer with electronic brakes you will need a 7 pin connector and brake controller. If the trailer gross weight is over 3000 lbs you should have a brake controller and the trailer should have it's own brakes.
If you convert to a 7 pin connector and have a brake controller you can still tow something smaller without trailer brakes, you just need a 7 pin to 4 pin adapter. They sell them a lot of places.
#5
Grumpy Old Man
1. Trailer brakes, requires trailer brake controller (TBC) and wired up right to power the TBC.
2. Battery charge/12-volt hot wire. RV trailers include at least one 12-volt battery that must be charged and maintained while on the road. Even cargo trailers have an itty bitty 12-volt battery to power the emergency disconnect switch (the switch that locks up the trailer brakes if the trailer gets loose from the tow vehicle.)
3. Auxiliary 12-volt hot wire - not usually wired on most RV trailers - identified as backup lights on Steve's wiring diagram, but as Steve mentioned, RV trailers with backup lights are rare.
What kind of things would I tow that would use a 4pin?
What kind of things would I tow that would use a 7pin?
Last edited by smokeywren; 04-15-2013 at 11:28 AM.
#6
I found a spec sheet that lists differences between the towing packages on 2013.
7-Wire Harness & 4-/7-Pin Connector
Aux. Auto Trans. Oil Cooler
Radiator Upgrade
Upgraded Rear Bumper
Trailer Brake Controller
Trailer Sway Control
If I switch to a 7 pin, what else would be recommended?
7-Wire Harness & 4-/7-Pin Connector
Aux. Auto Trans. Oil Cooler
Radiator Upgrade
Upgraded Rear Bumper
Trailer Brake Controller
Trailer Sway Control
If I switch to a 7 pin, what else would be recommended?
#7
The feature was not designed to turn on backup lights, but could be used that way.
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#8
Senior Member
I found a spec sheet that lists differences between the towing packages on 2013.
7-Wire Harness & 4-/7-Pin Connector - need to use 7 pin trailer connector
Aux. Auto Trans. Oil Cooler - Always a good idea, but required by Ford for the over 5000 lb tow capacity
Radiator Upgrade - required by Ford for the over 5000 lb tow capacity, but not something you''ll realy add
Upgraded Rear Bumper - required for the over 5000 lb tow capacity, ie it incorporates the heavier rated hitch
Trailer Brake Controller - Always a good idea, but required for trailer with electric brakes, which is depended on the state in which it is purchased, i.e. NY requires brakes on over 1200 lb factory weight trailers which includes all but the smallest popup campers, had a Jayco 806, 1400lbs factory dry that had electric.
Trailer Sway Control - factory added to work with factory brake controller
If I switch to a 7 pin, what else would be recommended?
7-Wire Harness & 4-/7-Pin Connector - need to use 7 pin trailer connector
Aux. Auto Trans. Oil Cooler - Always a good idea, but required by Ford for the over 5000 lb tow capacity
Radiator Upgrade - required by Ford for the over 5000 lb tow capacity, but not something you''ll realy add
Upgraded Rear Bumper - required for the over 5000 lb tow capacity, ie it incorporates the heavier rated hitch
Trailer Brake Controller - Always a good idea, but required for trailer with electric brakes, which is depended on the state in which it is purchased, i.e. NY requires brakes on over 1200 lb factory weight trailers which includes all but the smallest popup campers, had a Jayco 806, 1400lbs factory dry that had electric.
Trailer Sway Control - factory added to work with factory brake controller
If I switch to a 7 pin, what else would be recommended?
FYI: I have seen reverse lights on 5th wheelers. It may be a state requirement.
#9
Senior Member
This wire does power up when I shift my truck into reverse. It is there to activate a hydraulic lock out solenoid found on trailers with hydraulic surge style-disc brakes. The lockout solenoid must be powered when backing otherwise the brakes will activte and lock the wheels up. Boat trailers commonly need this feature.
The feature was not designed to turn on backup lights, but could be used that way.
The feature was not designed to turn on backup lights, but could be used that way.
been so long since i used surge brake equipt trailers...forgot some have this..thanks..
#10
Not really sure what would be worth getting.
I did a search on amazon and found this.
Looks kinda tiny. Would this work or is there a better brand I should look into.
I did a search on amazon and found this.
Looks kinda tiny. Would this work or is there a better brand I should look into.
Last edited by Nervosa; 04-15-2013 at 10:57 PM. Reason: not sure why its posting two links