atwowheelguy

I agree that enough truck is the best solution. The F150 is the daily driver of choice for many, so the solution from the other direction is to choose the trailer that's within the capabilities of the truck. That's why many come here asking for advice. The problem is that many want that huge trailer and are reluctant to accept the laws of physics that apply to this universe. It can be done, but it takes a little education and an acceptance of reality. If one doesn't want to accept any limitations and doesn't want to ever think about any of it, buy the truck that can handle the maximum load.



I only own one caged vehicle and I don't want a 250 or 350 as a daily driver. I also don't want to buy a HD truck and let it sit for 300+ days per year while I incur the expenses of taxes, insurance and depreciation of a second vehicle.

I choose the other route of managing the weight.

acdii

^^what he said.

My only gripe is that the 2016 doesn't handle the same trailer as well that my 2014 did, and it had lower payload! I got one of those rare ones with weird steering.

mass-hole

There was 10-15 of them on Cars.com when I did a search a week or two ago.

charles_slc

Unfortunately....most that mention HDPP probably don't really have it...

I used an alert on autotrader.com to find mine...
<disclaimer> I work for another branch of *** Auto </disclaimer>

If you're looking for a 2014 or older, you can look at the pics for 7 lug wheels, that means it's an HDPP.

Velosprout

Absolutely...when you find many, if not almost all advertised HDPP used trucks, you must get the VIN number and run it through a decoder to make certain, and realize it isn't real. Most dealerships don't post the payload sticker, so call the dealership and have them text it to you. I saw a HDPP 5.5 foot bed trucks advertised (which are never made), Limited HDPP trucks (again never made). Some dealerships confuse (intentionally or not, and like many forum posters in the past) the 2.7 Payload Package with Heavy Duty Payload Package. I wonder how many unsuspecting buyers end up thinking they have bought a HDPP truck that isn't.

acdii

I thought that 2014 they stopped the 7 lug axles on HDPP.

Want to be more confused? I never realized my 2012 was HDPP until recently. It had 7 lug wheels, BUT, it had a moonroof. It did have a 6.5 bed too, and was a Tall **** for a stock truck and rode like a tank. If I knew back then, what I know now about trucks and towing, I would have hung onto that beast, it was just too tall for me, and I didn't really have a need for it, until I found I actually used it more than I thought and had to find something to replace it later. DOH.

smokeywren

2014 was the last model year that the 7-lug 17" wheels were part of HDPP. Beginning in 2015 model year, both the 17" wheels on the XL and the 18" wheels on the XLT and Lariat with HDPP were special HDPP 6-lug wheels.


I don't know what was "special" about the 18" HDPP wheels, except they look different than the 18" alloy wheels available without HDPP.


For 2012, HDPP was available on XL, XLT, and Lariat trim. It was not available with Off Road Pkg (55A), XLT Custom pkg (86C) or Lariat Chrome pkg (86L). But it was available with moon roof on Lariat trim.


On a SuperCrew with HDPP, 157" wheelbase (6.5' bed) was required. On regular cab and SuperCab. 8' bed was required.


So apparently your 2012 with HDPP, 6.5' bed and moonroof was a SuperCrew Lariat? If not, then your truck was not in the 2012 F-150 Order Guide dated 12/01/11.

acdii

Oh boy is my memory bad!!!!!!!!!!

I really don't know where or what had 7 lug wheels now, but found the one and only picture of the 2012 I had. It did not have 7 lug wheels as I thought it did. So it was not an HDPP. Well that makes me feel better now. I never really liked that truck anyway.

thrifty biil

I taught math at a community college. #1 math class was grade school math, #2 was junior high school math, #3 was high school math. As a result, many students had to take three full semesters of math before they took a single college math class. All these classes were taken by high school graduates......

mass-hole

No, they absolutely did. I was very vigilant in making sure they had the 7 lug wheels as I was specifically looking for 2011-2014 HDPP ecoboost trucks. There was a bunch of them. I had probably 12 tabs open in Chrome bookmarking all the ones I found.

Here is a 2 minute search of cars.com for 2011-14 4x4 Crew Cabs with 6 cylinder and Heavy Duty Payload keyword. There are probably more that I could have found without looking for HDPP:

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3633/overview/

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...7410/overview/

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...6651/overview/

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...2096/overview/

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...2593/overview/

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...6297/overview/

I am actually thinking that if I decide I need to go HDPP at some point I may skip the new ones and go for a 2013/2014. I know my current 2014 is extremely stable towing and is basically the HDPP truck without the heavier spring and axle(screw 6.5' bed, max tow, 3.73's: so it has the HDPP frame already). With all the complaints I hear about the new trucks towing. . . .