13/14 vs 2016
#11
This is post 9,949,123 on this subject and the consensus always seems to be the same. People just cannot get the newer trucks to be as stable. I will say that my 2014 is rock solid with my 24'/5500 lb travel trailer but youre much heavier and I just dont have the experience there. I barely feel passing trucks even doing 70mph.
If you go to a 2014 then absolutely get the max-tow package for the extra GVWR and payload. It will be pretty bad without it. If you are feeling frisky, try to find an HD Payload 2014 and that thing should be a beast. I had found a bunch of them on cars.com not to long ago.
If you go to a 2014 then absolutely get the max-tow package for the extra GVWR and payload. It will be pretty bad without it. If you are feeling frisky, try to find an HD Payload 2014 and that thing should be a beast. I had found a bunch of them on cars.com not to long ago.
Last edited by mass-hole; 11-08-2017 at 02:31 PM.
#12
I have a 2016 F150 3.5 Eco with the Hd tow package. I purchased a 24x8.5 car hauler this summer that’s about 8000 lbs Loaded with about 850 lbs of TW. I have a Blueox Swaypro that’s set up correctly and all weights are within spec according to the scale. I can’t seem to get down major highways without some scary incident of a tractor trailer or bus blowing me all over the road at speed. The BlueOx keeps the trailer from swaying but it still doesn’t seem to be in control. Would a 13/14 max roe be better with this problem? My only other choice is going up to a 3/4 ton, which I really don’t want to do if I can avoid it
Hek, my F150 gets blown around in the wind just like my 2008 Ford Sport Trac did because they're the same weight!
I pull my rig in high winds, getting blown around is the nature of the beast. Going with a LT tire will help slow the wallowing that side winds cause although I haven't had much issue with the P series tires on my 2016 F150.
I had a 2012 F150 just like my 2016 down to the gears. The 2016 pulls slightly better than the 2012 did.
It sounds like your Blue Ox Sway Pro hitch wasn't setup correctly. I know that only 1 chain link can be a big difference in how the Blue Ox operates it's sway control.
Also when talking to Blue Ox, they recommended that I turn off the F150 electronic sway control as it could fight the Blue Ox's sway control. I personally wouldn't recommend that as I don't know for a fact, I'll let Blue Ox make that recommendation to others.
I know that I'm happy with the tow quality of my rig. Tows better with the same trailer (Jayco Jay Flight 26BH that's in my signature) than the 2012 F150 and trailer. But I'm now using the Blue Ox Sway Pro where I was using the Reese Strait-Line hitch system (Trunnion bar and HP Dual Cam Sway Control System) with the 2012 and Jayco 26BH.
That being said, if I didn't use my truck as a commuter where I needed fuel efficiency, I'd be driving a 6.2L Crew F250. Loved the steel 2016s as I almost pulled the trigger, but their 10/15 mpg just couldn't do it for me. Plus finding a F150 with ~1900 lbs of true payload made the choice to stay with the F150 even easier.
Last edited by Mike Up; 11-09-2017 at 12:32 AM.
#13
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Thread Starter
If you don't have sway, that's all the Blue Ox Sway Pro can do. It can't add weight to your truck so that it's heavier and more stable.
Hek, my F150 gets blown around in the wind just like my 2008 Ford Sport Trac did because they're the same weight!
I pull my rig in high winds, getting blown around is the nature of the beast. Going with a LT tire will help slow the wallowing that side winds cause although I haven't had much issue with the P series tires on my 2016 F150.
I had a 2012 F150 just like my 2016 down to the gears. The 2016 pulls slightly better than the 2012 did.
It sounds like your Blue Ox Sway Pro hitch wasn't setup correctly. I know that only 1 chain link can be a big difference in how the Blue Ox operates it's sway control.
Also when talking to Blue Ox, they recommended that I turn off the F150 electronic sway control as it could fight the Blue Ox's sway control. I personally wouldn't recommend that as I don't know for a fact, I'll let Blue Ox make that recommendation to others.
I know that I'm happy with the tow quality of my rig. Tows better with the same trailer (Jayco Jay Flight 26BH that's in my signature) than the 2012 F150 and trailer. But I'm now using the Blue Ox Sway Pro where I was using the Reese Strait-Line hitch system (Trunnion bar and HP Dual Cam Sway Control System) with the 2012 and Jayco 26BH.
That being said, if I didn't use my truck as a commuter where I needed fuel efficiency, I'd be driving a 6.2L Crew F250. Loved the steel 2016s as I almost pulled the trigger, but their 10/15 mpg just couldn't do it for me. Plus finding a F150 with ~1900 lbs of true payload made the choice to stay with the F150 even easier.
Hek, my F150 gets blown around in the wind just like my 2008 Ford Sport Trac did because they're the same weight!
I pull my rig in high winds, getting blown around is the nature of the beast. Going with a LT tire will help slow the wallowing that side winds cause although I haven't had much issue with the P series tires on my 2016 F150.
I had a 2012 F150 just like my 2016 down to the gears. The 2016 pulls slightly better than the 2012 did.
It sounds like your Blue Ox Sway Pro hitch wasn't setup correctly. I know that only 1 chain link can be a big difference in how the Blue Ox operates it's sway control.
Also when talking to Blue Ox, they recommended that I turn off the F150 electronic sway control as it could fight the Blue Ox's sway control. I personally wouldn't recommend that as I don't know for a fact, I'll let Blue Ox make that recommendation to others.
I know that I'm happy with the tow quality of my rig. Tows better with the same trailer (Jayco Jay Flight 26BH that's in my signature) than the 2012 F150 and trailer. But I'm now using the Blue Ox Sway Pro where I was using the Reese Strait-Line hitch system (Trunnion bar and HP Dual Cam Sway Control System) with the 2012 and Jayco 26BH.
That being said, if I didn't use my truck as a commuter where I needed fuel efficiency, I'd be driving a 6.2L Crew F250. Loved the steel 2016s as I almost pulled the trigger, but their 10/15 mpg just couldn't do it for me. Plus finding a F150 with ~1900 lbs of true payload made the choice to stay with the F150 even easier.
#14
Yeah, I went down to a 1000 lb bar from a 1500 and it made a world of difference. I have 11 links and a nice curve on the bars, and it made a very noticeable improvement to the handling characteristics of the truck. I am picking up a 2014 on Saturday (hopefully), so hopefully it works out
My 2012 F150's hitch was a Reese Trunnion HP Dual Cam system (Strait-Line) with 1200 lbs bars. Those bars proved to be to strong for my 2016's stronger suspension. So much so, it couldn't be setup correctly with out interference between the bars and the cam brackets. Reese doesn't have 1000 lbs bars for that Strait-line system, just 800 lbs and lower, or 1200 lbs and higher bars. Blue Ox 1000 lbs bars are perfect and do the job well.
Last edited by Mike Up; 11-09-2017 at 12:48 PM.
#15
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Thread Starter
Even with the Max Tow? The truck I want has a 7600 lb GVWR.
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Good luck with the truck, just be mindful that the 2014 has much less payload capability. I personally felt that my 2012 was a more solid and better built truck, but it was undoubtedly less powerful with a lower payload due to it's heavier weight and 1st generation 5.0L.
My 2012 F150's hitch was a Reese Trunnion HP Dual Cam system (Strait-Line) with 1200 lbs bars. Those bars proved to be to strong for my 2016's stronger suspension. So much so, it couldn't be setup correctly with out interference between the bars and the cam brackets. Reese doesn't have 1000 lbs bars for that Strait-line system, just 800 lbs and lower, or 1200 lbs and higher bars. Blue Ox 1000 lbs bars are perfect and do the job well.
My 2012 F150's hitch was a Reese Trunnion HP Dual Cam system (Strait-Line) with 1200 lbs bars. Those bars proved to be to strong for my 2016's stronger suspension. So much so, it couldn't be setup correctly with out interference between the bars and the cam brackets. Reese doesn't have 1000 lbs bars for that Strait-line system, just 800 lbs and lower, or 1200 lbs and higher bars. Blue Ox 1000 lbs bars are perfect and do the job well.
No. My 2014 max-tow has the same payload within a few ten's of lbs of the several 2015+ truck I have looked at of the same configuration(157" Lariat 4x4 502A).
The difference with the 2015+ 3.5 Ecoboost trucks is that they ALL have the same GVWR so it doesnt matter if you get max-tow or not anymore. All new trucks will have the same payload as an equally optioned 2011-2014 max-tow
Depends on the wheel base. 145" crew cab is 7650 i think and 157" is 7700.
#20
My 2016 weighs 20 pounds more than my 2014 did. My 2014 had 133 fewer pounds payload, but in the end, once loaded up with the same trailer, it came out to be less than 100 pounds difference between them.