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Old 02-13-2018, 10:59 PM
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WOW! That really looks great and the mods are a good match. I'm sitting in flat Florida, haven't seen snow or elevation in many years, otherwise I would have also opted for a nice big tire combo.

$7k is not too bad. I hope I'll be able to get a somewhat comparable discount. How long is your wait time about? 2 month?
I ordered mine first week of December, its built now and in transit and should be delivered in the next week or two. The folks that ordered before the plant holiday shutdown cost us 2-3 weeks, so 2 to 2-1/2 months seem about right.

The main reason I went with the XLT over the XL was the 8" Nav/Sync 3 screen. I have so many mods planed I didn't want to take on even more. The base 4" sync screen in the center stack to me looks really cheap. My current daily driver is a older BMW 550xi but still has a ton of technology I'm used to. The rebates were better to on a XLT which bought the price closer together.

I hate all the chrome on the XLT though so that going to be gone fast. There is a trick to ordering a XLT and get painted bumpers. You must order two tone paint, which I didn't want.

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Yeah, something has changed. My 2011 GMC truck was bulletproof, not one issue in over 4 years. GM knows about the vibration problem but totally ignores it. Anyways, I forced GM through legal means to buy back my Corvette, and I will do the same again if they don't fix my truck. With these vibrations I won't be able to sell it privately, and trading it in will cost me at least $5k.

What are your plans? Anything Ford?

I bought a 2018 F-150 Limited 4x4 to replace the Tahoe.
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The GM diesel trucks don't have cylinder deactivation, but my Corvette did. That thing managed up to 36 MPG on the highway at 60 MPH. Obviously I was closer to 12

In a C7 Corvette you can turn cylinder deactivation off my going into the track mode.

I'm not a fan of cylinder deactivation at all. It puts more stress on the engine and lowers the life expectancy.

PS: I know Nicko McBrain, he lives in Boca and owns a great BBQ restaurant.
ahh, I missed that it was a diesel. I just remember reading a lot about the "Chevy shake" on silverado forums when I was researching trucks and wondered if they were related.

I love Iron Maiden, finally got a chance to see them a couple years ago at Summer Fest in Milwaukee. Hottest freakin' day of the summer it was like 97 when the show started that evening still. That's hot for WI and those guys rocked thru it like nothing. Everything is so tight and crisp in that band. Anyway, i'm not even a little jealous you have a personal connection with Nicko...
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Alright. I was about to place the order but did a second test ride in a V8 single cab. The first time around it was the NA V6, and I somehow didn't manage to get a good impression because the sales person kept distracting me with his BS talk.

This time around I made sure to let my gut feeling do the talking after the test ride. I really wanted to step out of the truck with a smile and just be ready to place the order. But reality was, and I said this out loud: "This thing rides like ***. It feels like ***, it wobbles like ***, the steering is *** and the seating is ***!".

I do understand that this is just a simple work truck. But the steering, the constantly shifting 10 gear auto and the soft-wobbly suspension will be the same in a Lariat.

Maybe I just got so used to riding the stiff suspension and steering in my 2500 HD Denali truck. The F-150 felt like some cheap Nissan sedan, like a car with tons of flex and roll. The steering is so soft and easy that it provides zero feedback.

I don't know what to do at this point. There was NO smile on my face whatsoever.

On top of that, I provided the sales guys an exact print-out with all the custom order options that I wanted. 3 different sales people came back to me trying to sell me a ""close match"" from their lot and network. They offered me the 2.7 eco boost even though I explained to all several times that I want to put a Whipple SB on the V8. They totally ignored me, offered me trucks way more expensive with options I don't want, heck even a super cab. That was also totally ***.

This experience was so unsatisfying that for now, I just have GM look at my Denali one more time and if they can fix this vibration issue at 70 MPH I'll just keep it and give up on trying to find a better or another solution. I'd just drive the Dmax until the wheels come off and don't worry about cars and trucks for the next 20 years.

Only way I could see a F-150 work out for me would be with a totally different aftermarket suspension (and I'm not talking about a lift or leveling), a trans tune that keeps this thing from shifting every time you only look at the gas paddle, and a different tune for the steering which needs to be stiffer and more direct (and I'm not sure if this is even possible).

Well, and if my Denali keeps vibrating I might lemon-law it and I might buy the Ford equivalent, a F-250 Platinum Powerstroke. But only if this truck doesn't show the same handling issues.

Kinda lost right now... what do you guys say..?

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Honestly maybe look at RAM? The coils will ride nicer. And you can supercharge a hemi.
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Honestly maybe look at RAM? The coils will ride nicer. And you can supercharge a hemi.

You might have a point. I'll just test drive one. I hope they are halfway reliable.
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Since that is not your decision to make, don't make useless replies. Moving on.
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Alright. I was about to place the order but did a second test ride in a V8 single cab. The first time around it was the NA V6, and I somehow didn't manage to get a good impression because the sales person kept distracting me with his BS talk.

This time around I made sure to let my gut feeling do the talking after the test ride. I really wanted to step out of the truck with a smile and just be ready to place the order. But reality was, and I said this out loud: "This thing rides like ***. It feels like ***, it wobbles like ***, the steering is *** and the seating is ***!".

I do understand that this is just a simple work truck. But the steering, the constantly shifting 10 gear auto and the soft-wobbly suspension will be the same in a Lariat.

Maybe I just got so used to riding the stiff suspension and steering in my 2500 HD Denali truck. The F-150 felt like some cheap Nissan sedan, like a car with tons of flex and roll. The steering is so soft and easy that it provides zero feedback.

I don't know what to do at this point. There was NO smile on my face whatsoever.

On top of that, I provided the sales guys an exact print-out with all the custom order options that I wanted. 3 different sales people came back to me trying to sell me a ""close match"" from their lot and network. They offered me the 2.7 eco boost even though I explained to all several times that I want to put a Whipple SB on the V8. They totally ignored me, offered me trucks way more expensive with options I don't want, heck even a super cab. That was also totally ***.

This experience was so unsatisfying that for now, I just have GM look at my Denali one more time and if they can fix this vibration issue at 70 MPH I'll just keep it and give up on trying to find a better or another solution. I'd just drive the Dmax until the wheels come off and don't worry about cars and trucks for the next 20 years.

Only way I could see a F-150 work out for me would be with a totally different aftermarket suspension (and I'm not talking about a lift or leveling), a trans tune that keeps this thing from shifting every time you only look at the gas paddle, and a different tune for the steering which needs to be stiffer and more direct (and I'm not sure if this is even possible).

Well, and if my Denali keeps vibrating I might lemon-law it and I might buy the Ford equivalent, a F-250 Platinum Powerstroke. But only if this truck doesn't show the same handling issues.

Kinda lost right now... what do you guys say..?
I had the same problem with sales people, all they want to do is try to locate a truck and not pay attention to the details on what the truck is equipped with. You must point blank say THIS IS WHAT I WANT, I will accept no compromise.

I had 25 miles on my truck and changed to Fox Coilovers and K02s, and I would agree the ride was supple before the change, to be totally honest 25 miles wasn't really enough to fully judge the way it drove prior to the mods so I'm not the best person to evaluate that. After the mods ride is not squishy in any way, I would call it firm not harsh I can adjust the shocks and make it NASCAR firm if I want.

I'm kind of unclear as to what the OP is actually after? A leveled On/Off road 4X4 truck or a RWD lowered boulevard cruiser?

Also keep in mind this is the last year for this generation Ram. You "Might" be able to get 2019 but currently they offer nothing in a standard cab in the next generation.

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I had the same problem with sales people, all they want to do is try to locate a truck and not pay attention to the details on what the truck is equipped with. You must point blank say THIS IS WHAT I WANT, I will accept no compromise.

I had 25 miles on my truck and changed to Fox Coilovers and K02s, and I would agree the ride was supple before the change, to be totally honest 25 miles wasn't really enough to fully judge the way it drove prior to the mods so I'm not the best person to evaluate that. After the mods ride is not squishy in any way, I would call it firm not harsh I can adjust the shocks and make it NASCAR firm if I want.

I'm kind of unclear as to what the OP is actually after? A leveled On/Off road truck 4X4 or a RWD lowered boulevard cruiser?

Also keep in mind this is the last year for this generation Ram. You "Might" be able to get 2019 but currently they offer nothing in a standard cab in the next generation.

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Thank you for the feedback.

I think I have to find a few local Ford guys in order to get an idea what the aftermarket scene can do for me. Stock suspension and trans tune is my main concern. I'll also look for another Ford dealer if I can find a solution.

I want a truck that looks very basic / stock on the outside, like a white work truck. No fancy rims, no lift, no decals, nothing. Basically a sleeper. I only want 4x4 and a lockable diff for occasional ""off road"" usage, nothing hardcore, we are talking about Florida rain season and getting stuck with 2 wheel drive, or the boat ramp and being able to pull a small boat out without issues. After a few k miles I want to install a Whipple 2.9 with matching intake and tune, but no changes to the exhaust system in order to keep the sound also in sleeper mode (at least until the whine kicks in).

I just have to make sure that I can get a much better and stiffer suspension, as well as being able to keep the new 10 gear auto from constantly switching gears. Do you know of any tunes for the new trans?
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