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They lost me at MAF under adjustable parameters...

I never post much to this forum but I read it daily and am I the only one that's sick and tired of seeing these guy's like jwanck11 get on here trying to defend SSI every time someone mentions another tune. This is getting ridiculous. I'm almost to the point that I would never buy anything from SSI because of this. He never said anything bad about SSI only that in his opinion he liked the diablo tune better. Sorry for the rant I'll go back to reading instead of posting

It's a shame to see someone so focused on an individual and be so angry. I do not post in quite a few tuning threads and post across forums on this web board usually seeking to help someone or enjoy a conversation. In any case, I am sorry you hold that perception of me.

I agree he did not say anything bad about SSI. I am not sure what that has to do with anything. MAK stated an opinion in a thread promoting a product that a canned tune was better than 2 custom tunes. He commented that he/they had done extensive testing to substantiate the opinion. That is black and white not true and it was called out, yes? I am not sure what is wrong with that.

Finally, for the 3rd time, DS comes with a good name and proven history, just not on the EB platform. I hope they hit the mark and offer consumers a great option for canned tunes.

DS tunes however cannot compete with custom tunes.

Not doing the go to another site to see results thing. The OP said IMHO. If someone disagrees with their opinion, fine. What we are not doing is starting a pissing contest. This goes for all parties.

Agreed Theo, apparently some of us can post what ever we want with no fear of reprisal and some of the rest don't count.

Oh, and I now see Theo's post has been removed.

Don't play that card. If you have something constructive to say, go for it. Asking people to go to the site that you posted to read a thread about someone saying they tested has no more validity than the OPs opinion. You, or anyone, want to start the slinging between this site and posts from another site will be edited. It's that simple. You have a graph to post up showing the two, side by side; post it.

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Originally Posted by brucesears (Post 3617280)

Agreed Theo, apparently some of us can post what ever we want with no fear of reprisal and some of the rest don't count.

Oh, and I now see Theo's post has been removed.

If you'll notice, the comment in the Post he brought into question was also edited/ deleted.

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Results of the DS tune-2 runs.

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2 runs with SSI tune, one of the average tunes.

Unless you can back up a canned tune being better, don't use it in your sales pitch. I'm sure the Diablo tune is fine, but to argue that it's superior to any custom tune from one of the big tuners, Livernois included, is silly. Video evidence below from another user, sstroudwku.

*Deleted videos... Keep your speeds off the street.Or off this forum.*

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Originally Posted by jwanck11 (Post 3615422)

your professional opinion? On drive-ability, performance and safety? Curious where one gets certified to qualify as a professional in assessing those variables?

You went from putting out there a completely false sales pitch into a downright lie. You have not extensively tested the custom tunes you made reference to... Let's keep this above-board and completely honest.

It is a shame. Ds does come with a good reputation, but there is no proof whatsoever their late-to-the-field entry on such a complicated platform is actually any good.

Lastly, other than unleashed (which i will agree is a solid tuner to be trusted,) given you run the tunes you do, it further reduces the ability to put any positive weight to your sales pitch.

I hope anyone reading your pitch now understands you are pushing a largely untested in the wild product - unless you are able to point us to extensive testimonials of people running ds tunes.

AGAIN we are simply trying to bring to light a product that overall "we believe" is the best on the market at the moment. It is our professional assessment that the driveability, performance, and reliability of the Diablosport tunes are best on the market at the moment.

Where do we qualify to assess those variables? We think that after 20+ years of experience in this industry, developing products with various major companies throughout various platforms our opinion has some weight.We have had numerous magazine covers over the years showcasing our expertise. We also had the fastest ecoboost truck in the country(TurboPete) until just recently where MPT took over that crown.

You claim that we have not extensively tested the tunes we referenced. Where do YOU QUALIFY to make such claims?
How is it that you assume that we have or have not done testing on those tunes. (Are you Professor Xavier??????)

AGAIN we simply are bringing to life a company with a new product. It is something else to offer the ecoboost community for those that may not be satisfied with what they have or are willing to try something new. It's very simple, if you are an SSI customer and you are happy with your product we are happy for you, but lets save the ecoboost community the pain of wading through all the back and forth drama, that seems to come with every thread whenever SSI is mentioned.