New Ecoboost Tunes from Diablosport - +90hp/90ftlbs
While they are late to the game Diablosport has finally made their presence in the Ecoboost world. Their Canned 93 Octane tune is making 90hp/90ftlbs. That's impressive!
We have been "secretly" testing these tunes for months and providing our ecoboost experience in order to get the best possible tune in the device. From having spent months driving a truck with the 93Octane tune, I can tell you that it drives and performs better than any other canned tune on the market that we have tried. DiabloSport is rocking the F-150 performance world with tire-peeling performance tunes for the 3.5L EcoBoost engine. Our performance programmers (inTune and Trinity), offer aftermarket tunes that increase horsepower on 87, 91, and 93 octane gasoline, as well as a specialty tune for towing, and one for boosting fuel economy 2-3 MPG. Make an additional 90+ HP and 90 + TQ with premium pump gas! We are also a CMR dealer meaning that we can custom tune any ecoboost F150 from 2011-2014. |
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Here is most of the release information, if you guys have specific questions please feel free to ask.
Attachment 521275 Attachment 521276 Dyno Graph: https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...57381f09d4.jpg Five Pre-Loaded Performance Tunes & Adjust Stock Setting The tune selections for the Ford F-Series 3.5L EcoBoost trucks depend on the type of gas you want to put in the tank. For best results, we always recommend running the highest-octane gas available in your area, and running the tune associated with that octane rating (e.g. 93 octane, 91 octane) 93 Octane Performance Tune Designed for power, economy, and drivability, this tune requires users to run a minimum of 93 octane “premium” in their gas tank to see the best power gains. You will need to upgrade your truck’s spark plugs to Ford Motorcraft part number SP-534, at .032-.035. With the proper gas and spark plug setup, this tune will add over 90 horsepower and 90 Ft. Lbs of torque! 91 Octane Performance Tune Designed for power, economy, and drivability, this tune requires users to run a minimum of 91 octane “premium” in their gas tank to see the best power gains. You will need to upgrade your truck’s spark plugs to Ford Motorcraft part number SP-534, gapped at .032-.035. With the proper gas and spark plug setup, this tune will add over 80+ horsepower and 80+ Ft. Lbs of torque! 87 Octane Performance Tune This tune will get your truck the biggest power gain available when running “regular” 87 octane gas your truck could see a mileage increase of up to 2 miles per gallon while still making over 50 HP over stock! MPG Booster Tune This tune maximizes the fuel efficiency of your F-series truck! Running 87 octane minimum, your truck could see a mileage increase of up to 3 miles per gallon while still making over 50 HP over stock! Towing Tune This tune increases your truck’s drivability when towing a load such as a trailer, camper, or a heavy payload in the bed. The tune optimizes low-end torque to get you going and ads over 50HP and 60 TQ to the tires. Factory HP Tune This tune uses the truck’s factory calibration, but allows for modifications to the tune to suit your own needs. |
Are these numbers from the 2014 model that they have been offering free tunes for?
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The numbers have been reproduced on a few different trucks. Our own 2013 being one of them.
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One thing we forgot to add. The tunes are untraceable to dealerships. So no need to worry about warranty issues.
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Nice, i would like to see how it stack against livernois and SSI.
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Originally Posted by MAK Performance
(Post 3611026)
While they are late to the game Diablosport has finally made their presence in the Ecoboost world. Their Canned 93 Octane tune is making 90hp/90ftlbs. That's impressive!
We have been "secretly" testing these tunes for months and providing our ecoboost experience in order to get the best possible tune in the device. From having spent months driving a truck with the 93Octane tune, I can tell you that it drives and performs better than any other canned tune on the market that we have tried. As you can see Diablosport has attempted to add a tune for eveyone. From over 15 years of experience with Diablosport I can tell you that once they support a vehicle, they support it 100%. This has been in the background for over a year while they have done R&D on every aspect of the powertrain. We are also a CMR dealer meaning that we can custom tune any ecoboost F150 from 2011-2014. |
Originally Posted by murdr
(Post 3612924)
Nice, i would like to see how it stack against livernois and SSI.
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Originally Posted by Koolponycar
(Post 3612973)
I went to their website and looked at the 5.0 gains about 18 HP, power adder always makes a difference! Thats awesome!
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The dyno run on the stock tune was stopped at 4200rpm. The Torque numbers would not have been higher but the Horsepower would have kept climbing. Just sayin'.
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Originally Posted by MAK Performance
(Post 3612992)
We have driven both tunes you are asking about extensively and the Diablo canned tune IMHO outperforms both those custom tunes as an overall tune that drives well and makes a lot of power. and it does it safely!
Unleashed and DS are the top 2nd place tuning options, though I would like to see DS get real miles and a significant amount of real world trial across the many strategies before making any further proclamations. |
Originally Posted by jwanck11
(Post 3613526)
Hmmmm. Stating this as your opinion seems to make it safe to say; however, I suggest it is quite closer to a sales pitch than being anywhere near reality. At least the SSI tune will blow the DS tune out of the water in terms of power, drive-ability whereas you may have one salient point regarding them being equal in safety.
Unleashed and DS are the top 2nd place tuning options, though I would like to see DS get real miles and a significant amount of real world trial across the many strategies before making any further proclamations. |
Originally Posted by MAK Performance
(Post 3612992)
We have driven both tunes you are asking about extensively and the Diablo canned tune IMHO outperforms both those custom tunes as an overall tune that drives well and makes a lot of power. and it does it safely!
Anybody with a diablo tune can come to my house and I will walk your ass. Done. |
Originally Posted by jwanck11
(Post 3613526)
Hmmmm. Stating this as your opinion seems to make it safe to say; however, I suggest it is quite closer to a sales pitch than being anywhere near reality. At least the SSI tune will blow the DS tune out of the water in terms of power, drive-ability whereas you may have one salient point regarding them being equal in safety.
Unleashed and DS are the top 2nd place tuning options, though I would like to see DS get real miles and a significant amount of real world trial across the many strategies before making any further proclamations.
Originally Posted by jwanck11
(Post 3613526)
Hmmmm. Stating this as your opinion seems to make it safe to say; however, I suggest it is quite closer to a sales pitch than being anywhere near reality. At least the SSI tune will blow the DS tune out of the water in terms of power, drive-ability whereas you may have one salient point regarding them being equal in safety.
Unleashed and DS are the top 2nd place tuning options, though I would like to see DS get real miles and a significant amount of real world trial across the many strategies before making any further proclamations.[/ QUOTE] well scratch them off my DP list. Someone must have fallen and bumped there head to say a canned tune will out perform a true custom tune... Really?
Originally Posted by GTAmuscle
(Post 3613878)
You and I both know that is untrue. Good sales pitch and even stirred me enough to come over to this forum.
Anybody with a diablo tune can come to my house and I will walk your ass. Done. We have no need for a sales pitch, we do not work for Diablo Sport. We are simply bringing to the ecoboost commnunity a product that we have extensively tested and we really liked what the outcome was. A comment was made by another member wondering how they stacked up. We simply gave them our professional opinion based on all the testing we have done over the years. We have gone and tested almost every tune on the market on our own personal trucks including the two mentioned, That qualifies us to make an honest comparison, so we did. In our opinion, we think it is a great product that definelty out performs every "out of the box" programmer and some custom tune out in the market. Keep in mind that we have run SCT on our trucks since they released support and we currently run MPT and Unleased tunes on some of our trucks. We offered our opinion on the matter on the basis of having experienced with what was asked. If you do not agree, so be it, we cannot please everyone. Enjoy whatever tune makes you happy, and that you feel is best for your trucks. BTW how did the diablo tune feel on your trucks? At the end of the day, away from our business, we still own ecoboost trucks as personal vehicles. The day you see us push something that we haven't already had on our truck most of the times before the public even knows about it. Then call it a sales pitch. We want what is best our trucks as does every other owner on this forum. |
Originally Posted by MAK Performance
(Post 3612701)
One thing we forgot to add. The tunes are untraceable to dealerships. So no need to worry about warranty issues.
I am interested in how it is untraceable and others are. Please explain, thanks in advance. |
Originally Posted by flstfse
(Post 3614198)
I am interested in how it is untraceable and others are. Please explain, thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by flstfse
(Post 3614198)
I am interested in how it is untraceable and others are. Please explain, thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by MAK Performance
(Post 3614184)
We have no need for a sales pitch, we do not work for Diablo Sport. We are simply bringing to the ecoboost commnunity a product that we have extensively tested and we really liked what the outcome was. A comment was made by another member wondering how they stacked up. We simply gave them our professional opinion based on all the testing we have done over the years. We have gone and tested almost every tune on the market on our own personal trucks including the two mentioned, That qualifies us to make an honest comparison, so we did. In our opinion, we think it is a great product that definelty out performs every "out of the box" programmer and some custom tune out in the market. Keep in mind that we have run SCT on our trucks since they released support and we currently run MPT and Unleased tunes on some of our trucks. We offered our opinion on the matter on the basis of having experienced with what was asked. If you do not agree, so be it, we cannot please everyone. Enjoy whatever tune makes you happy, and that you feel is best for your trucks. BTW how did the diablo tune feel on your trucks? At the end of the day, away from our business, we still own ecoboost trucks as personal vehicles. The day you see us push something that we haven't already had on our truck most of the times before the public even knows about it. Then call it a sales pitch. We want what is best our trucks as does every other owner on this forum. You went from putting out there a completely false sales pitch into a downright lie. You have not extensively tested the custom tunes you made reference to... let's keep this above-board and completely honest. It is a shame. DS does come with a good reputation, but there is NO proof whatsoever their late-to-the-field entry on such a complicated platform is actually any good. Lastly, other than unleashed (which I will agree is a solid tuner to be trusted,) given you run the tunes you do, it further reduces the ability to put any positive weight to your sales pitch. I hope anyone reading your pitch now understands you are pushing a largely untested in the wild product - unless you are able to point us to extensive testimonials of people running DS tunes. |
Originally Posted by jwanck11
(Post 3615422)
Your professional opinion? On drive-ability, performance and safety? Curious where one gets certified to qualify as a professional in assessing those variables?
You went from putting out there a completely false sales pitch into a downright lie. You have not extensively tested the custom tunes you made reference to... let's keep this above-board and completely honest. It is a shame. DS does come with a good reputation, but there is NO proof whatsoever their late-to-the-field entry on such a complicated platform is actually any good. Lastly, other than unleashed (which I will agree is a solid tuner to be trusted,) given you run the tunes you do, it further reduces the ability to put any positive weight to your sales pitch. I hope anyone reading your pitch now understands you are pushing a largely untested in the wild product - unless you are able to point us to extensive testimonials of people running DS tunes. |
Lol people really defend their custom tunes, i could easily buy all the tuners custom files view the data files and very easily create a file that will compete with custom tunes. i imagine a company with actual IT tech would have no problem. If im the last product to market i can pick and choose(ie copy) the best of the best for my basic entry, its only code after all.
That being said id believe those number spreads from stock on low grade 87 to tuned on race fuel. |
They lost me at MAF under adjustable parameters...
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I never post much to this forum but I read it daily and am I the only one that's sick and tired of seeing these guy's like jwanck11 get on here trying to defend SSI every time someone mentions another tune. This is getting ridiculous. I'm almost to the point that I would never buy anything from SSI because of this. He never said anything bad about SSI only that in his opinion he liked the diablo tune better. Sorry for the rant I'll go back to reading instead of posting
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It's a shame to see someone so focused on an individual and be so angry. I do not post in quite a few tuning threads and post across forums on this web board usually seeking to help someone or enjoy a conversation. In any case, I am sorry you hold that perception of me.
I agree he did not say anything bad about SSI. I am not sure what that has to do with anything. MAK stated an opinion in a thread promoting a product that a canned tune was better than 2 custom tunes. He commented that he/they had done extensive testing to substantiate the opinion. That is black and white not true and it was called out, yes? I am not sure what is wrong with that. Finally, for the 3rd time, DS comes with a good name and proven history, just not on the EB platform. I hope they hit the mark and offer consumers a great option for canned tunes. DS tunes however cannot compete with custom tunes. |
Not doing the go to another site to see results thing. The OP said IMHO. If someone disagrees with their opinion, fine. What we are not doing is starting a pissing contest. This goes for all parties.
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Agreed Theo, apparently some of us can post what ever we want with no fear of reprisal and some of the rest don't count.
Oh, and I now see Theo's post has been removed. |
Don't play that card. If you have something constructive to say, go for it. Asking people to go to the site that you posted to read a thread about someone saying they tested has no more validity than the OPs opinion. You, or anyone, want to start the slinging between this site and posts from another site will be edited. It's that simple. You have a graph to post up showing the two, side by side; post it.
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Originally Posted by brucesears
(Post 3617280)
Agreed Theo, apparently some of us can post what ever we want with no fear of reprisal and some of the rest don't count.
Oh, and I now see Theo's post has been removed. |
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...928ea82507.jpg
Results of the DS tune-2 runs. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...bc64d66f7b.jpg 2 runs with SSI tune, one of the average tunes. |
Unless you can back up a canned tune being better, don't use it in your sales pitch. I'm sure the Diablo tune is fine, but to argue that it's superior to any custom tune from one of the big tuners, Livernois included, is silly. Video evidence below from another user, sstroudwku.
*Deleted videos... Keep your speeds off the street.Or off this forum.* |
Originally Posted by jwanck11
(Post 3615422)
your professional opinion? On drive-ability, performance and safety? Curious where one gets certified to qualify as a professional in assessing those variables?
You went from putting out there a completely false sales pitch into a downright lie. You have not extensively tested the custom tunes you made reference to... Let's keep this above-board and completely honest. It is a shame. Ds does come with a good reputation, but there is no proof whatsoever their late-to-the-field entry on such a complicated platform is actually any good. Lastly, other than unleashed (which i will agree is a solid tuner to be trusted,) given you run the tunes you do, it further reduces the ability to put any positive weight to your sales pitch. I hope anyone reading your pitch now understands you are pushing a largely untested in the wild product - unless you are able to point us to extensive testimonials of people running ds tunes. Where do we qualify to assess those variables? We think that after 20+ years of experience in this industry, developing products with various major companies throughout various platforms our opinion has some weight.We have had numerous magazine covers over the years showcasing our expertise. We also had the fastest ecoboost truck in the country(TurboPete) until just recently where MPT took over that crown. You claim that we have not extensively tested the tunes we referenced. Where do YOU QUALIFY to make such claims? How is it that you assume that we have or have not done testing on those tunes. (Are you Professor Xavier??????) AGAIN we simply are bringing to life a company with a new product. It is something else to offer the ecoboost community for those that may not be satisfied with what they have or are willing to try something new. It's very simple, if you are an SSI customer and you are happy with your product we are happy for you, but lets save the ecoboost community the pain of wading through all the back and forth drama, that seems to come with every thread whenever SSI is mentioned. |
Originally Posted by t.mackenzie
(Post 3615780)
Lol people really defend their custom tunes, i could easily buy all the tuners custom files view the data files and very easily create a file that will compete with custom tunes. i imagine a company with actual IT tech would have no problem. If im the last product to market i can pick and choose(ie copy) the best of the best for my basic entry, its only code after all.
That being said id believe those number spreads from stock on low grade 87 to tuned on race fuel. |
so do we get a Mak performance discount if we buy this? :)
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A quick visit to ssi forum will display the sheer hypocrisy that groups brings every time they post or are told to post on other forums.
The customers/members and some lapdogs are sent in to discredit anything that either competes or appears to compete with SSI. I for one am sick and tired of it. I hate having to read through the bs. It's interesting that we never hear from Shawn himself,but I think we all know why he isn't allowed to speak on his own. |
Originally Posted by MAK Performance
(Post 3618639)
AGAIN we are simply trying to bring to light a product that overall "we believe" is the best on the market at the moment. It is our professional assessment that the driveability, performance, and reliability of the Diablosport tunes are best on the market at the moment.
Where do we qualify to assess those variables? We think that after 20+ years of experience in this industry, developing products with various major companies throughout various platforms our opinion has some weight.We have had numerous magazine covers over the years showcasing our expertise. We also had the fastest ecoboost truck in the country(TurboPete) until just recently where MPT took over that crown. You claim that we have not extensively tested the tunes we referenced. Where do YOU QUALIFY to make such claims? How is it that you assume that we have or have not done testing on those tunes. (Are you Professor Xavier??????) AGAIN we simply are bringing to life a company with a new product. It is something else to offer the ecoboost community for those that may not be satisfied with what they have or are willing to try something new. It's very simple, if you are an SSI customer and you are happy with your product we are happy for you, but lets save the ecoboost community the pain of wading through all the back and forth drama, that seems to come with every thread whenever SSI is mentioned. I'm running an SSI tune, and an SSI member did make the comparison but I invite Livernois ( you know, that other company you threw under the bus to shovel your canned tunes/programmers ) to comment as well about how much worse their custom tunes are than Diablo canned tunes. ANY custom tune ( ie you've provided at least one data log and subsequent revision for your vehicle ) from ANY of the major Ecoboost tuners will be superior to a canned tune. Period. The problem is not that you THINK the tune has better drivability or reliability ( those are awfully difficult to prove ) but when you say they have better PERFORMANCE and you proceed to throw custom tuners under the bus. Know what you could have said? "Diablo provides a solid, safe and reliable tune from a major industry backed tuner with years of experience and thousands of vehicles tuned. Every Diablo tune is guarenteed to improve drivability, performance and, in some cases, even fuel efficiency. Although custom tunes due have their advantages, this is a great option for people wanting a great tune with no hassle and the ability for custom tuning in the future." Bingo -- you just sold units without having to take a dump in someone elses Cheerios and subsequently defend yourself from the claim that your canned tunes were superior WITHOUT providing ANY data at all to support it. |
Originally Posted by RockhoundF150
(Post 3618743)
The problem is it sounds like you are a salesman, not a tuner. A salesman bashes other companies products to try and sell their own without providing supporting data. That's what you did.
I'm running an SSI tune, and an SSI member did make the comparison but I invite Livernois ( you know, that other company you threw under the bus to shovel your canned tunes/programmers ) to comment as well about how much worse their custom tunes are than Diablo canned tunes. ANY custom tune ( ie you've provided at least one data log and subsequent revision for your vehicle ) from ANY of the major Ecoboost tuners will be superior to a canned tune. Period. The problem is not that you THINK the tune has better drivability or reliability ( those are awfully difficult to prove ) but when you say they have better PERFORMANCE and you proceed to throw custom tuners under the bus. Know what you could have said? "Diablo provides a solid, safe and reliable tune from a major industry backed tuner with years of experience and thousands of vehicles tuned. Every Diablo tune is guarenteed to improve drivability, performance and, in some cases, even fuel efficiency. Although custom tunes due have their advantages, this is a great option for people wanting a great tune with no hassle and the ability for custom tuning in the future." Bingo -- you just sold units without having to take a dump in someone elses Cheerios and subsequently defend yourself from the claim that your canned tunes were superior WITHOUT providing ANY data at all to support it. Love the incompLETe or eMPTy names. Very professional and again ,like you said, name calling with no data to back it up besides hype. Please stop because the hypocrisy is thick and will be difficult to overcome. These are just tunes people.... |
mak performance offers far more than tuners, he is just giving his opinions to help out us ecoboost owners. STOP RUINING THIS THREAD with SSI BS
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Originally Posted by 2012 boosted eb
(Post 3618749)
More hypocrisy. Creative names Shawn came up with,not on his own I am sure.
Love the incompLETe or eMPTy names. Very professional and again ,like you said, name calling with no data to back it up besides hype. Please stop because the hypocrisy is thick and will be difficult to overcome. These are just tunes people.... No one on this thread is responding with anything but supporting data disproving the OP, except the people that have some sort of vendetta with SSI. |
Originally Posted by RockhoundF150
(Post 3618792)
I don't care what people buy, honestly. I don't like being on forums where vendors are given a free pass to shovel snake oil and bash other vendors ( Livernois ) products while trying to sell their own.
No one on this thread is responding with anything but supporting data disproving the OP, except the people that have some sort of vendetta with SSI. This SSI drama is beyond pathetic. |
Originally Posted by 2012 boosted eb
(Post 3618801)
Your efforts are misguided. We see what is going on and the attempts to derail a thread. Reading comprehension used to be a basic skill.
This SSI drama is beyond pathetic. If you didn't want people defending tunes with data, the OP should not have responded the way he did. Was VERY easy to avoid. Instead of this thread being about how strong the Diablo tune is for a canned tune, it's now a thread about a salesman that decided to call out two of the major tuners without any supporting data to do so because he CHOSE to call them out. This isn't oh poor pitiful me, why are people picking on me. |
Originally Posted by 2012 boosted eb
(Post 3618801)
Your efforts are misguided. We see what is going on and the attempts to derail a thread. Reading comprehension used to be a basic skill.
This SSI drama is beyond pathetic. The only drama being posted is from poster's who hate SSI and will do anything to stir the pot. The only thing we have done is to present the facts. |
Based on the past I have seen, I will take the performance hit of the diablosport to not have to deal with SSI... Every time ANY tune thread shows up on this site, the SSI guys piss down both legs to defend it.
It's a tune guys, not some sort of magical unicorn dust that is only available from one guy. It's funny to watch people compare tunes as if someone has some sort of secret that someone else doesn't know, LOL! Sheesh, If you like your SSI tune, or your Diablosport tune, you can keep it... Nobody is forcing you to purchase it. Your "Street Cred" isn't in jeopardy because a vendor says he likes one tune over another. I can see guys sobbing as they walk to their truck with a razor blade, and slowly scrape their favorite tuners sticker off the back window, as the salty tears run down the glass. Diablo sport or SSI posts a 2MPH gain.... Now I can't show my face on the street OR the track!!! GAh!!!!!! |
performance claims canned vs custom aside the biggest claim i have problems with is that its supposed to be untraceable. wheres the evidence to back this up? hypothetically if i were to run a diablo sport canned tune and something happened to my engine and the dealership "claimed" i was tuned is diablosport gonna back me up or snicker behind my back and whisper "sucker".
reassure me, otherwise stage3 and their warranty (albeit more expensive) is the way to go if you care about warranty at all. |
Originally Posted by RockhoundF150
(Post 3618743)
The problem is it sounds like you are a salesman, not a tuner. A salesman bashes other companies products to try and sell their own without providing supporting data. That's what you did.
I'm running an SSI tune, and an SSI member did make the comparison but I invite Livernois ( you know, that other company you threw under the bus to shovel your canned tunes/programmers ) to comment as well about how much worse their custom tunes are than Diablo canned tunes. ANY custom tune ( ie you've provided at least one data log and subsequent revision for your vehicle ) from ANY of the major Ecoboost tuners will be superior to a canned tune. Period. The problem is not that you THINK the tune has better drivability or reliability ( those are awfully difficult to prove ) but when you say they have better PERFORMANCE and you proceed to throw custom tuners under the bus. Know what you could have said? "Diablo provides a solid, safe and reliable tune from a major industry backed tuner with years of experience and thousands of vehicles tuned. Every Diablo tune is guarenteed to improve drivability, performance and, in some cases, even fuel efficiency. Although custom tunes due have their advantages, this is a great option for people wanting a great tune with no hassle and the ability for custom tuning in the future." Bingo -- you just sold units without having to take a dump in someone elses Cheerios and subsequently defend yourself from the claim that your canned tunes were superior WITHOUT providing ANY data at all to support it. We did not throw anyone under the bus, as much as you may like to think so. ONCE AGAIN(We think this is the 4th time), The question was asked to us and we answered it, in an honest manner, giving our opinion. We did not bash anyone in doing so. If you, a company,or anyone else has a problem understanding that and are taking it to heart, then so be it. We are not here to teach English class. We have addressed the same question/issue multiple times and certain people have a hard time reading english. This is the last time we will acknowledge the same issue. If anyone has any questions about the diablosport devices, tunes, custom tunes, or anything else related to that topic. Please feel free to post or PM us and we will gladly answer all of your questions. |
Originally Posted by redmist
(Post 3619291)
Based on the past I have seen, I will take the performance hit of the diablosport to not have to deal with SSI... Every time ANY tune thread shows up on this site, the SSI guys piss down both legs to defend it.
It's a tune guys, not some sort of magical unicorn dust that is only available from one guy. It's funny to watch people compare tunes as if someone has some sort of secret that someone else doesn't know, LOL! Sheesh, If you like your SSI tune, or your Diablosport tune, you can keep it... Nobody is forcing you to purchase it. Your "Street Cred" isn't in jeopardy because a vendor says he likes one tune over another. I can see guys sobbing as they walk to their truck with a razor blade, and slowly scrape their favorite tuners sticker off the back window, as the salty tears run down the glass. Diablo sport or SSI posts a 2MPH gain.... Now I can't show my face on the street OR the track!!! GAh!!!!!! |
i have a question, once i load my tune using the intune, can i unplug it and plug my bluetooth obd 2 reader back in?
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Originally Posted by Amarr014
(Post 3620086)
i have a question, once i load my tune using the intune, can i unplug it and plug my bluetooth obd 2 reader back in?
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Originally Posted by Amarr014
(Post 3620086)
i have a question, once i load my tune using the intune, can i unplug it and plug my bluetooth obd 2 reader back in?
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I have a 2014 5.0 and here in Canada, dealers are a lot pickier when it comes to tunes. I would love to tune my truck for shift points and throttle response more than anything. Canned tunes would be fine.
How does DiabloSport claim that their tunes are not traceable? That doesn't make any sense. As soon as you flash to a non-stock tune, the computer stores a code telling anyone who checks that it has been flashed aftermarket. Am I wrong?? How is DiabloSport the only tuner that has found the magical incantations to speak to prevent this? |
Originally Posted by Kravchenko
(Post 3620378)
I have a 2014 5.0 and here in Canada, dealers are a lot pickier when it comes to tunes. I would love to tune my truck for shift points and throttle response more than anything. Canned tunes would be fine.
How does DiabloSport claim that their tunes are not traceable? That doesn't make any sense. As soon as you flash to a non-stock tune, the computer stores a code telling anyone who checks that it has been flashed aftermarket. Am I wrong?? How is DiabloSport the only tuner that has found the magical incantations to speak to prevent this? |
Originally Posted by MAK Performance
(Post 3611026)
While they are late to the game Diablosport has finally made their presence in the Ecoboost world. Their Canned 93 Octane tune is making 90hp/90ftlbs. That's impressive!
We have been "secretly" testing these tunes for months and providing our ecoboost experience in order to get the best possible tune in the device. From having spent months driving a truck with the 93Octane tune, I can tell you that it drives and performs better than any other canned tune on the market that we have tried. As you can see Diablosport has attempted to add a tune for eveyone. From over 15 years of experience with Diablosport I can tell you that once they support a vehicle, they support it 100%. This has been in the background for over a year while they have done R&D on every aspect of the powertrain. We are also a CMR dealer meaning that we can custom tune any ecoboost F150 from 2011-2014. This is just what I was looking for. Can't wait! |
Originally Posted by Fissues
(Post 3622946)
Thanks Adrian,
This is just what I was looking for. Can't wait! |
Originally Posted by modru2004
(Post 3619389)
performance claims canned vs custom aside the biggest claim i have problems with is that its supposed to be untraceable. wheres the evidence to back this up? hypothetically if i were to run a diablo sport canned tune and something happened to my engine and the dealership "claimed" i was tuned is diablosport gonna back me up or snicker behind my back and whisper "sucker".
reassure me, otherwise stage3 and their warranty (albeit more expensive) is the way to go if you care about warranty at all. that is what I want to know as well. If the dealer can prove you were tuned is diablo going to back it up? |
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I just installed the Diablosport and am very impressed!!!
Buttdyno'd at at about two sets of handcuffs and definate loss of license in under 6 seconds. Thanks Adrian!:thumbsup::thumbsup: The company does claim right on the box," Warranty safe-leaves no fingerprints or watermarks, and safe for flash counters" Attachment 520923 |
I really want a tune but seeing how my truck is a lease I am very worried about the dealer being able to detect it. If Diablo Sport would back up their claims of being untraceable I would be on this in a second. I don't want anything too crazy just a 87 perf tune.
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Originally Posted by MAK Performance
(Post 3612701)
One thing we forgot to add. The tunes are untraceable to dealerships. So no need to worry about warranty issues.
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Originally Posted by Fissues
(Post 3627129)
I just installed the Diablosport and am very impressed!!!
Buttdyno'd at at about two sets of handcuffs and definate loss of license in under 6 seconds. Thanks Adrian!:thumbsup::thumbsup: The company does claim right on the box," Warranty safe-leaves no fingerprints or watermarks, and safe for flash counters" http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/e...psf7b1e066.jpg |
MAK Performance - PM sent :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by osris
(Post 3624449)
that is what I want to know as well. If the dealer can prove you were tuned is diablo going to back it up?
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It's a modest tune: smooth with a lotta balls. No ping or knock just a lot of tire smoke.
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Originally Posted by Fissues
(Post 3632458)
It's a modest tune: smooth with a lotta balls. No ping or knock just a lot of tire smoke.
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Originally Posted by osris
(Post 3624449)
that is what I want to know as well. If the dealer can prove you were tuned is diablo going to back it up?
Actually, I guess I don't really care. It is the same here as it is in the diesel world, pay to play. I also did some thinking on this, why is it so hard to believe that they made their unit untraceable? With my 06 cummins when the Smarty came out and claimed untraceable nobody questioned it at all, even though several other companies weren't able to be untraceable. Seems to me if you are really worried about warranty you have 2 options, 1. leave it stock and enjoy it, 2. Buy the tune and buy the warranty available with the tune in case something happens to the motor... |
Originally Posted by osris
(Post 3633765)
Actually, I guess I don't really care. It is the same here as it is in the diesel world, pay to play. I also did some thinking on this, why is it so hard to believe that they made their unit untraceable? With my 06 cummins when the Smarty came out and claimed untraceable nobody questioned it at all, even though several other companies weren't able to be untraceable. Seems to me if you are really worried about warranty you have 2 options, 1. leave it stock and enjoy it, 2. Buy the tune and buy the warranty available with the tune in case something happens to the motor...
I agree with what you say in regard to pay to play. |
Originally Posted by modru2004
(Post 3633288)
which one are you running? the 93 91 87?
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Originally Posted by BucketMan
(Post 3633805)
Because computers/technology have advanced just a bit since 2006. Ford learned their lesson on the 6.0 PowerStroke.
I agree with what you say in regard to pay to play. |
Man, I do not think i have posted in either a long time or ever,but this post really has got my goat...And sorry up front as its going to be a little long winded,and i am sure one or two will still say B.S. etc...
I have just ordered one of the last ecoboosted FX2 for 2014,and started looking into different options, and the tune of course being the first... I have had enough cars and mods to know how a good custom tune can make the difference when extra parts are added,and that normally can tune is just really the first step,and a baby step at that... Now after saying that it is as i understand is because the Big dealers(DS) have to meet standards a tuner shop normally side steps,which allows them to really make more power since its not being sold over the counter... But after saying all of that It really makes sense that dealers liked DS have much more insight to what each brand,and car company is doing. It is normally company's like DS that first break the codes,and without them none of the other so called tuner shops would even be able to tune anything without their software. So with all the abilities,programmers,software,and tools at their disposal do you really think that DS if they wanted to could not write a program that produces as much power as any custom tune,and still meet the GOV Regs ? Trust me they make custom tunes all the time to go along with towing etc,they just install them in their programmers, and we call then can tunes...it just up to them how much they want to push each vehicle..its not because they are not able make as much or more than anyone else.. what some of your are saying is like saying bill gates can not write a program that runs faster that a custom computer shops can,because Microsoft sells boxed programs to the masses ..???? Its not always about the amount of power a tune makes,just because one tune make 100hp,and 100tq doesnt mean that the truck will either be faster than 90& 90 or run better as its the total over all power gain that counts not just the peak... its silly to say that a huge company like DS can not install a so called can tune that will out perform most custom tunes.. And how anyone single person that owns a single truck or even 2 that has had their truck tuned at his favorite shop would know more than a shop that buys everyone else's tunes to compare them,1 to see what everyone is doing (research) ,2 so they are able to pass the info onto not just their customers but the whole Community. 3) how would anyone person would know what a shop is or is not doing as far as research,other than what the shop lets us know,makes no sense..so to say that they do not know which tunes either make more power or either have issues or fix known issues also makes no sense... I for one am thankful that any shop if its the case would really purchase all those tunes and compare them.. Plus The fore mention shop is just one of many DS dealers,so i do not see it as a case of them just saying this to push DS,because they also sell other brands of tuners... Thank you,and i know it was a little long winded but i had to just get it off my chest,because its people who always either talk trash,or really do not know the truth that start rumors,and B.S. that force shops to stop going above and beyond,as well as posting to help us with free information,which in the long run hurt us all... Now will DS 93 tune make more power than a custom tune set up for meth,no..and yes there are other Circumstances that DS 93 will not make as much power if left alone when maybe other parts are added, but we are talking about nothing more than just a tune,no CAI exhaust or anything..other than spark plugs... 90 and 90 with nothing else if it is the truth, is pretty freaking good,and i for one am going to buy it.Then add a bunch of parts on top of it to see where it takes me before i even start looking at another tune...But i am sure DS can mod the tune when other parts are added as well... |
Originally Posted by Aboostedf150
(Post 3635680)
Man, I do not think i have posted in either a long time or ever,but this post really has got my goat...
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Just ordered my tuner today!
Can't wait to get it and try this beast tuned :-) |
I would like to know more about this tuner. I would also like to know why, on the dynamic sheet they stopped the run so quickly on the stock tune. This is a real question and I'm not a troll. I'm just trying to figure out what tune to get. I thought I was going to get the 5 star with the warranty but it is not what I thought. So I am still looking.
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Please use 'Measured' (or 'uncorrected') when dyno'ing Forced-induction vehciles ;)
Using 'Corrected' on a boosted motor taints the numbers. Boosted motors create their own atmosphere. Also curious why the baseline stopped at 4500; is that the redline for a stock engine? |
Originally Posted by rockhead11
(Post 3668773)
I would like to know more about this tuner. I would also like to know why, on the dynamic sheet they stopped the run so quickly on the stock tune. This is a real question and I'm not a troll. I'm just trying to figure out what tune to get. I thought I was going to get the 5 star with the warranty but it is not what I thought. So I am still looking.
Originally Posted by DetroitDarin
(Post 3668901)
Please use 'Measured' (or 'uncorrected') when dyno'ing Forced-induction vehciles ;)
Using 'Corrected' on a boosted motor taints the numbers. Boosted motors create their own atmosphere. Also curious why the baseline stopped at 4500; is that the redline for a stock engine? The pull was stopped there because the truck has a speed limiter at 98mph and will not rev past that point. You cannot go any faster than that on an untuned truck. |
That makes sense, and all of the tunes are following about the same line. What about the towing tune, is that like the 87 but with different parameters in the transmission strategy?
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Originally Posted by rockhead11
(Post 3669013)
That makes sense, and all of the tunes are following about the same line. What about the towing tune, is that like the 87 but with different parameters in the transmission strategy?
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Originally Posted by MAK Performance
(Post 3669169)
Could not tell you on that aspect we have not used the tow tune, but I'm sure its setup to focus on towing rather than making horsepower.
what about towing with performance tunes? |
Originally Posted by modru2004
(Post 3669351)
diablosport doesn't label the tune very well unfortunately. they don't even mention what octane its for, given the stated power figures are identical to the 87 tune i assume its the same octane. also what about tow/haul is this supposed to be used by a tow tune? or is it best to leave it off when using a tow tune.
what about towing with performance tunes? |
Originally Posted by DetroitDarin
(Post 3668901)
Please use 'Measured' (or 'uncorrected') when dyno'ing Forced-induction vehciles ;)
Using 'Corrected' on a boosted motor taints the numbers. Boosted motors create their own atmosphere. Also curious why the baseline stopped at 4500; is that the redline for a stock engine? |
anyone else running this tuner? Would love to hear some more feedback
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I'm still lovin' my DS with the 93 tune. Hasn't skipped a beat and and still wicked fast.
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I see your a pro at this stuff and im just starting to mess with it all. I had a few questions about tuners and stuff. I just bought the diablo intune, the k&n CAI, and a MBRP catback. Ive noticed in some videos that's theres a CAI tune or is that an add on to all the tunes? When I input the 93 tune go ahead and select the CAI also? I assume? Also I don't plan on running the 93 tune I plan on using the 87's BUT I have to atleast try it, so run my truck to almost empty then put in some 93? I'm guessing you most likely know what the rwhp is stock if you could let me know what that is, and what you think if might be after all 3 of theses things are installed using the 93 tune...Thanks MAK one more thing do I still use the tow/haul when towing 8600lbs camper with the tow tune?
2014 FX4 SCREW, EcoBoost |
Originally Posted by haler17
(Post 4159909)
I see your a pro at this stuff and im just starting to mess with it all. I had a few questions about tuners and stuff. I just bought the diablo intune, the k&n CAI, and a MBRP catback. Ive noticed in some videos that's theres a CAI tune or is that an add on to all the tunes? When I input the 93 tune go ahead and select the CAI also? I assume? Also I don't plan on running the 93 tune I plan on using the 87's BUT I have to atleast try it, so run my truck to almost empty then put in some 93? I'm guessing you most likely know what the rwhp is stock if you could let me know what that is, and what you think if might be after all 3 of theses things are installed using the 93 tune...Thanks MAK one more thing do I still use the tow/haul when towing 8600lbs camper with the tow tune?
2014 FX4 SCREW, EcoBoost |
I think I want one of these...What CAI would you recommend to go with it?
I'm running the Corsa DB catback. |
Originally Posted by Stolen 98
(Post 4164431)
I think I want one of these...What CAI would you recommend to go with it?
I'm running the Corsa DB catback. We offer a package deal with the tuner and Intake for a discounted price. If you have any questions please feel free to ask. http://www.makperformance.com/2011-2...age_p_267.html |
Originally Posted by Fissues
(Post 3961127)
I'm still lovin' my DS with the 93 tune. Hasn't skipped a beat and and still wicked fast.
Hi, I've seen your posts on THT :thumbsup: I'm just south of you in Revere TAILS UP !!! |
Being untraceable is simply not true, the pcm has a flash counter. If the dealer shows its been updated 3 times bit the counter shows 10, its probably going to raise a few eyebrows. Now that being said if you have the balls to mod your vehicle's, have the balls to accept voided warranty claims.
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Originally Posted by Docboz
(Post 4167062)
Being untraceable is simply not true, the pcm has a flash counter. If the dealer shows its been updated 3 times bit the counter shows 10, its probably going to raise a few eyebrows. Now that being said if you have the balls to mod your vehicle's, have the balls to accept voided warranty claims.
If you do not feel comfortable modding your truck, then by all means do not touch it, you will not be happy with anything you do. |
Cant trace any other tuners if you turn tge vehicle back to stock either. ..
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Price Drop on the Intune in Preperation for the release for the of the I2:
While supplies last $339.99 Shipped http://www.makperformance.com/2011-2...ner_p_258.html |
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Can't be found on a dealer level?
I had a tune, and had the water in intercooler hesitation issue. Made an appointment, and returned to stock. Took it to the local dealer to get the TSB completed, which includes a reflash. This is what the dealer handed me when I picked the truck up. Attachment 509263 |
Originally Posted by Stolen 98
(Post 4164431)
I think I want one of these...What CAI would you recommend to go with it?
I'm running the Corsa DB catback. |
Originally Posted by PSI-FX4
(Post 4251113)
Can't be found on a dealer level?
I had a tune, and had the water in intercooler hesitation issue. Made an appointment, and returned to stock. Took it to the local dealer to get the TSB completed, which includes a reflash. This is what the dealer handed me when I picked the truck up. http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a22...ps9d70f775.jpg |
They told me the computer flashing machine kept giving an error when they tried to install the latest Ford update, and wouldn't let them flash the computer. So... I'm not sure? I would love to run another tuner (tow tunes) but I'm afraid that if I tried another tuner that it wouldn't be able to flash my computer and fry it. Maybe I'm just paranoid.
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Originally Posted by PSI-FX4
(Post 4251454)
They told me the computer flashing machine kept giving an error when they tried to install the latest Ford update, and wouldn't let them flash the computer. So... I'm not sure? I would love to run another tuner (tow tunes) but I'm afraid that if I tried another tuner that it wouldn't be able to flash my computer and fry it. Maybe I'm just paranoid.
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It is, because when I go back to plug in the tuner, it asks what level 1, 2, 3 or 4 and stock isn't an option.
It's stock tuning, I can definitely feel the transmission shifting difference along with the obvious power decline. |
Originally Posted by PSI-FX4
(Post 4251625)
It is, because when I go back to plug in the tuner, it asks what level 1, 2, 3 or 4 and stock isn't an option.
It's stock tuning, I can definitely feel the transmission shifting difference along with the obvious power decline. |
I had an H&S Mini Maxx and had KEM put a tune on it for me. The tuner had to be sent to H&S to get the firmware installed on the tuner so it would be compatible with the Ecoboost. Probably wasn't the best option but since I already had the H&S from my old Diesel, I figured what the heck. I do love all the monitoring that tuner gives me. I still use it to monitor exhaust temp and boost levels.
When the tune is installed, truck runs fine. I just am iffy installing the tune back on it since the Ford dealer can now not flash my PCM for some reason?? I guess it doesn't really matter at this point, but I'm worried that my PCM might fry or something if I try installing it again. Truck runs okay with the stock tune now, I only ran an 87 octane tow tune because I mainly wanted just better shifting instead of power. |
Originally Posted by PSI-FX4
(Post 4254427)
I had an H&S Mini Maxx and had KEM put a tune on it for me. The tuner had to be sent to H&S to get the firmware installed on the tuner so it would be compatible with the Ecoboost. Probably wasn't the best option but since I already had the H&S from my old Diesel, I figured what the heck. I do love all the monitoring that tuner gives me. I still use it to monitor exhaust temp and boost levels.
When the tune is installed, truck runs fine. I just am iffy installing the tune back on it since the Ford dealer can now not flash my PCM for some reason?? I guess it doesn't really matter at this point, but I'm worried that my PCM might fry or something if I try installing it again. Truck runs okay with the stock tune now, I only ran an 87 octane tow tune because I mainly wanted just better shifting instead of power. In regards to your particular issue with the H&S, the tuner has not been restored properly, that is why you are having issues with reflashing the PCM. Take it back to whoever installed it and have them remove it. |
I do realize that, however the guy at the Ford dealership says he has seen this issue several times due to tuners being installed. Luckily he is a good friend of mine and just let me know just in case I had to take it anywhere else.
My inquiry here was if I bought a Diablosport tuner will I be able to flash if Ford wasn't able to. My minimax tuner can install a tune and put it back stock, but for some reason when it is "stock" Ford can't flash my truck. I asked them to fix it but with the ongoing issues with the EPA and H&S, they will not do anything. At least that's what they told me. This is why I'm looking at getting another tuner possibly because KEM said he will not be able to install tunes on it anymore due to H&S dropping the firmware or something like that due to lawsuits. My truck is back to "stock" but I'm worried that if I bought another tuner it would give me an error. I'm looking to sell my H&S MiniMax to a buddy of mine that has a diesel. H&S will install firmware back on it to make it work for a diesel but will not do anything for a gas truck. At least this is my understanding. |
Originally Posted by PSI-FX4
(Post 4254515)
I do realize that, however the guy at the Ford dealership says he has seen this issue several times due to tuners being installed. Luckily he is a good friend of mine and just let me know just in case I had to take it anywhere else.
My inquiry here was if I bought a Diablosport tuner will I be able to flash if Ford wasn't able to. My minimax tuner can install a tune and put it back stock, but for some reason when it is "stock" Ford can't flash my truck. I asked them to fix it but with the ongoing issues with the EPA and H&S, they will not do anything. At least that's what they told me. This is why I'm looking at getting another tuner possibly because KEM said he will not be able to install tunes on it anymore due to H&S dropping the firmware or something like that due to lawsuits. My truck is back to "stock" but I'm worried that if I bought another tuner it would give me an error. I'm looking to sell my H&S MiniMax to a buddy of mine that has a diesel. H&S will install firmware back on it to make it work for a diesel but will not do anything for a gas truck. At least this is my understanding. The other possibility is that the Ford Tech was lost, because we have an IDS in house and we can and have re-flashed over every tuner on the market without issue. |
I'm interested in this for my 2015. What's the difference between the regular Intune and the I2? I've run the Intune DCX on my prior Rams and liked the performance gains. This truly is untraceable? Thanks in advance!
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Originally Posted by MrBoost
(Post 4325467)
I'm interested in this for my 2015. What's the difference between the regular Intune and the I2? I've run the Intune DCX on my prior Rams and liked the performance gains. This truly is untraceable? Thanks in advance!
At the dealer level the Intune and I2 cannot be traced. |
How many engines have thrown rods using a SSI tune? And the crappy customer service? Almost anything would be better.
The Diablosport looks good. |
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