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Old 07-29-2013, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mr_diggs
They are Borg Warner turbos. I think you would have about $1500-1600 in buying two turbos. Not including install.
According to Tasca the turbos are $514 each. They don't look that difficult to install, just remove the front wheels to get to them. I bet you could probably get them installed for under $1500.

Still a hell of a lot cheaper than a new engine plus the fabrication and labor required to install it.
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Originally Posted by 11BLKFX4EB
You're wrong. They are Garrett. The smaller ecoboost motors are Borg.
No they are Borg Warner. Look at the FullRace post and ect. The SHO/Flex are Garrett's.
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Originally Posted by EcoboostDave
No they are Borg Warner. Look at the FullRace post and ect. The SHO/Flex are Garrett's.
Correct. My bad.
Old 07-29-2013, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Lakesidestyle
At 103k miles I have turbos that sound like angry hamsters and I'm starting to get a gnarly engine sound, the type that requires a tear down. With as much as it will cost to tear down, repair, and buy new turbos I figure I might as well buy a fresh engine. That being said I'm not too interested in buying another Eco with my first experience being what it is.

I know this will cost money, but to replace the whole truck I'm going to have to ink a 20k check between negative equity and money down for a new one and even then I'll be in more debt than I am now. I love my truck and would rather just spend money making it into something I want.

Local dealers aren't interested. One even told me it is "impossible". So looking for a capable shop.
I've seen low mileage takeout ecos with transmission, harness and ecu for $4,500 on ebay so I wouldn't bother with swapping powerplants to a 6.2. you can upgrade what you have for much cheaper.

Regardless, it isn't impossible they are just telling you that to try to sell you a truck. The different F150 variants all have the same frames/cabs/engine compartments across all engines so I doubt there is any 'fabrication' involved. You could make it work but, IMO, it isn't worth the time/money. The only reason SDHQ went through all the hassle was because they wanted to replicate a Raptor which only came in a SCAB shortbed. Had they opted for a SCAB with a 6.5' bed they could have just swapped engines.
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Originally Posted by Lakesidestyle
No sound clips but yeah.Luckily it's still running while I figure out what I want to do.
More info would be appreciates. I think all Eco owners would appreciate what to expect at 100k, even if you are just one case.
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Replace the turbos, get a tune from SoCal or livernois and have fun.
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Originally Posted by hardhat
Replace the turbos, get a tune from SoCal or livernois and have fun.
This.

IMO, the options look like this.

1. Repair the turbos (if its actually the issue) the dealer might not be able but I know they can bc people have been doing mods. There are parts, just maybe not at the dealer. A couple people to talk to is morkin designs or mike aka mtxpert...mike would be first. He had turbos built for his flex. (Different eco but I bet the shop he used can figure it out)

2. New turbos, you could by some junkyard ones. Car-part.com has them for like 300 a piece or new for 500 from tasca.

3. Replace engine. Car-part has whole engines for 5k.

4. Attempt the swap. Now, I'm sure it can be done but your best bet is buy a wrecked 6.2 low mileage truck. Bc your gonna need the pcm and harness plus some fuel system parts not to mention motor mounts, the cat section of the exhaust and the list goes on.

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honestly, a swap would be the utmost PITA I've seen attempted on these trucks.....ever. Unless we see major problems with the factory turbos trashing themselves with miles......this thread presents itself as TROLLS-VILLLE. Anyone else?
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Originally Posted by mr_diggs
honestly, a swap would be the utmost PITA I've seen attempted on these trucks.....ever. Unless we see major problems with the factory turbos trashing themselves with miles......this thread presents itself as TROLLS-VILLLE. Anyone else?
I wouldn't even consider a swap over just the turbo's. It's this other gnarly sound coming from deep within the motor that gives me nightmares of more $$$ heading out the window in the near future. Between 3 dealers, I've yet to find anyone who truly is educated with these motors. A tear down would be like a bad science experiment on my dime at shop rate.

If you had 40k troubled miles, wouldn't you be a tad bit frustrated??

-King of the hill on Eco Miles

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Originally Posted by Lakesidestyle

I wouldn't even consider a swap over just the turbo's. It's this other gnarly sound coming from deep within the motor that gives me nightmares of more $$$ heading out the window in the near future. Between 3 dealers, I've yet to find anyone who truly is educated with these motors. A tear down would be like a bad science experiment on my dime at shop rate.

If you had 40k troubled miles, wouldn't you be a tad bit frustrated??

-King of the hill on Eco Miles
I have a suggestion. Go to blackstonelabs.com and do an oil sample. Cost you 25 bucks. If there are internal problems it will be making metal.
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