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Old 01-08-2015, 06:25 AM
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There are some really twisted people out there. The water clings with oil that is in the CAC. It has been proven to happen by Chemists. Keep denying it but it can't be proven untrue.
Who are these chemists? Where is their proof?

It needs to be shown true before anybody cares.
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Old 01-08-2015, 10:35 AM
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Do your own research. Like I said it can't be proven un-true only that is fact. No amount of denial will ever prove it not. It is the oil that is the problem. It is the chemical thing that happens with water vapor and the other vapors coming from the block mixing together. It is the reason the mess mixes with just a swirl in a glass and then tends to settle out into varying levels of substances when allowed to set in a glass for a day or so. All this is old known facts. Remove the vapors from the Block and you remove most all the problem. The drill hole works your just putting the Blocks byproducts all over your neighborhood as a form of pollution, with the example of going back to the old draft tube block passage dripping down onto the road and the oily sheen after a light rain on the road. It's like 200 cars dumping a quart on the highway every driving day. Multiply it by 10 million with a hole drilled and your see there is the likelihood of 12,500 gallons a day being dumped onto the highways/streets. A million F150's with a hole and there is the likelihood of 1050 gallons every driving day (24 hours) being expelled onto the environment. Like I said before I know my decision and I stick with it.
I don't have any agenda but it seems some here do, denial, cover ups, etc.

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I'm not telling anyone how to spend their money but I have the hole drilled in my IC and still get what looks to be water/oil in my can.
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Old 01-08-2015, 11:32 AM
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Do your own research. Like I said it can't be proven un-true only that is fact. No amount of denial will ever prove it not. It is the oil that is the problem. It is the chemical thing that happens with water vapor and the other vapors coming from the block mixing together. It is the reason the mess mixes with just a swirl in a glass and then tends to settle out into varying levels of substances when allowed to set in a glass for a day or so. All this is old known facts. Remove the vapors from the Block and you remove most all the problem. The drill hole works your just putting the Blocks byproducts all over your neighborhood as a form of pollution, with the example of going back to the old draft tube block passage dripping down onto the road and the oily sheen after a light rain on the road. Like I said before I know my decision and I stick with it.
I don't have any agenda but it seems some here do, denial, cover ups, etc.
"Because I said so" is not a defense or proof or evidence. You made the claim, you believe it, back it up.

Yes, everybody knows it is a mixture of~ 99% water 1% oil. We also know oil in an intercooler is normal and has been for decades. So the water is clearly the problem when it comes to choking under load. Conversely, If I make a glass of oleander tea, and it is deadly, the problem wasn't the water. Just because both are present does NOT make both a problem.

Oil is NOT required for condensation to form and I've never seen any evidence that it promotes it either. I'm not sure where you get your ideas from.
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I'm not telling anyone how to spend their money but I have the hole drilled in my IC and still get what looks to be water/oil in my can.
Of course you do. The can is before the CAC. The real problem is, you can still get water in your CAC too. It just shouldn't be oily water. Not sure how that would help when you suck in 6oz. Hopefully with the hole it won't happen. But I'm unsure.
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No air conditioner, toilet bowl, air compressor coats its self with oil to create condensation, neither does my front window during my long winter.
Condensation has nothing to do with oil, sticking to oil, making more because of oil.
Condensation is water vapor collecting to a surface with the correct range of temperature difference. Oil does not increase or decrease the rate of condensation. It is an extra product also making its way into the CAC along with vapor from the crankcase in addition to the majority of the moisture coming in the CAC from the humid air compressed at the turbos then condensing on the CAC fins. Just like an air compressor.
I had to empty water out of our shop compressor twice daily in humid conditions.
That is science fact. No oil there.
Yes oil will mix with water in the right conditions, but that's not the issue here.
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It's temperature differences that creates the oil/water/acid combination which means all the acid and combustion byproducts of blow by and heat. All this has been proven and documented for decades and the decision to prevent pollution on a grand scale is ours. Consider 10,000 of these taking the same drive down the same express to work each day dropping the oil out the hole over a month on the same roadway month after month, year after year. Then put it at 10,000,000 /turbo boosted cars/trucks blowing it out daily, year after year.

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It's temperature differences that creates the oil/water/acid combination which means all the acid and combustion byproducts of blow by and heat. All this has been proven and documented for decades and the decision to prevent pollution on a grand scale is ours. Consider 10,000 of these taking the same drive down the same express to work each day dropping the oil out the hole over a month on the same roadway month after month, year after year. Then put it at 10,000,000 /turbo boosted cars/trucks blowing it out daily, year after year.
You still don't get it.
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I know oil/blow by products are condensed in the CAC on average and the water collects with/on it. This should not be blown out on the highway. The fact that it is when the hole is drilled is what what I do get. The fact that some have to do it to insure a safe motor is where the cover up begins and ends. There are gallons and gallons of water in the air ingested and only ounces of oil but it is the oil and I repeat the oil that is the problem. Solve it and the water problem becomes a non issue.

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Originally Posted by papa tiger View Post
I know oil/blow by products are condensed in the CAC on average and the water collects with/on it. This should not be blown out on the highway. The fact that it is when the hole is drilled is what what I do get. The fact that some have to do it to insure a safe motor is where the cover up begins and ends. There are gallons and gallons of water in the air ingested and only ounces of oil but it is the oil and I repeat the oil that is the problem. Solve it and the water problem becomes a non issue.
I'm not worried about it. Hope your not losing sleep that I am dripping one drop of oil per 10,000 miles.
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