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Old 04-01-2014, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuner Boost
After that dosent work, I can guarantee a fix. Just let me know.
and what exactly are
You suggesting?
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and what exactly are
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You must have missed the sales pitch...
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Originally Posted by brettd4x4
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https://www.f150forum.com/f38/ford-t...5/#post3401467

Post# 345.

Does not get better than that.
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Originally Posted by Tuner Boost
https://www.f150forum.com/f38/ford-t...5/#post3401467

Post# 345.

Does not get better than that.
I'm sure this has been covered in another forum somewhere, or maybe I just don't know enough About them, but if these catch cans fix all the ecoboost issues, why doesn't ford issue this as a fix in a tsb or recall?
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Originally Posted by Bhayward
I'm sure this has been covered in another forum somewhere, or maybe I just don't know enough About them, but if these catch cans fix all the ecoboost issues, why doesn't ford issue this as a fix in a tsb or recall?
Aw jeez
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Got my truck back today. Turns out it needed a new coil pack and plug on the #6. I'm skeptical that this has fixed the issue completely but for now she's back to running at 100%.
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Originally Posted by ja60524
Got my truck back today. Turns out it needed a new coil pack and plug on the #6. I'm skeptical that this has fixed the issue completely but for now she's back to running at 100%.
Nice! The coils do fail we cannot always blame the moisture droplets on bank 2 misfires.
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Originally Posted by Bhayward
I'm sure this has been covered in another forum somewhere, or maybe I just don't know enough About them, but if these catch cans fix all the ecoboost issues, why doesn't ford issue this as a fix in a tsb or recall?
It requires regular drain intervals, something no auto maker is willing to implement in todays society of owners that dont even know how to check oil. The mix cannot be reintroduced to the crankcase as it contains a concentration of damaging compounds that it removes to begin with. It is not for everyone, only those that are handy and will maintain them. A Ford dealer in the Midwest as authorization to install one on a problem prone 2013 that they have done every TSB and fix (including coils and plugs twice, all the CAC's, PCV, and tune updates ) so they are at wits end. They are installing a system next week and will do a long term documentation of all the issues and judge the effectiveness. This does not mean it will ever be a standard fix due to the owner draining, but at least they want to see first hand how effective it is and hopefully allow dealers to install if they are maintaining the vehicles.

Originally Posted by ja60524
Got my truck back today. Turns out it needed a new coil pack and plug on the #6. I'm skeptical that this has fixed the issue completely but for now she's back to running at 100%.
Excellent. There are many other issue that may cause the same symptoms. Coil failure, spark plug ceramic cracked or bad plug, fuel injector failing, etc. All should be considered.

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Nice! The coils do fail we cannot always blame the moisture droplets on bank 2 misfires.

Absolutely correct. All I mention above should be considered and eliminated. The upcoming Ford dealer test will be some good guidance (except I am sure IT and mike will try and convince Ford there is no reason to do the test as those two already know everything and can save then the time and effort since their #1 reason for being here seems to convince all this is imagined).
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Originally Posted by Tuner Boost
It requires regular drain intervals, something no auto maker is willing to implement in todays society of owners that dont even know how to check oil. The mix cannot be reintroduced to the crankcase as it contains a concentration of damaging compounds that it removes to begin with. It is not for everyone, only those that are handy and will maintain them. A Ford dealer in the Midwest as authorization to install one on a problem prone 2013 that they have done every TSB and fix (including coils and plugs twice, all the CAC's, PCV, and tune updates ) so they are at wits end. They are installing a system next week and will do a long term documentation of all the issues and judge the effectiveness. This does not mean it will ever be a standard fix due to the owner draining, but at least they want to see first hand how effective it is and hopefully allow dealers to install if they are maintaining the vehicles.


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Originally Posted by Tuner Boost
Absolutely correct. All I mention above should be considered and eliminated. The upcoming Ford dealer test will be some good guidance (except I am sure IT and mike will try and convince Ford there is no reason to do the test as those two already know everything and can save then the time and effort since their #1 reason for being here seems to convince all this is imagined).
Yes it will be a good test. And my guess is it still will not fix the issue. And if it does, then the owner needs a new engine as there is some reason the engine is putting out too much junk in the PCV system. It should not happen.

As we head into the seasons this happens with it will be interesting to see the posts track. And even more interesting if we see the "I installed the can and still have the issue" posts.

However, I suspect if it works out you will trumpet it as the be all and end all of fixes. And if it doesn't it will quickly be forgotten. Like the dyno runs we all would love to see on the effects of the deposits from an Ecoboost. Like dyno runs showing a catch can improves "efficiency", i.e.: torque, HP, and MPG.

I'm here to figure out what the issue is and how FORD is fixing it so if it happens to mine I either know what to do myself or what the dealer will do.


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