170 or 190 Thermostat Tuned 5.0
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I am running the 5 Star 87 octane Perf/Tow 170* tunes. My coolant temp runs 183*, unloaded, pretty consistently. I towed my travel trailer (~6000#) about a month ago, but didn't monitor the coolant temps at that time. My trans temp was ~196* (cluster display), though, and I was getting about 1-1/2 mpg better towing that with the stock t-stat/ previous 87 P/T tunes. I can definitely feel a power increase with the 170* stat/tune combo. I haven't really noticed any loss in heater output and am not concerned, as winters are pretty mild here and I never run it at max anyway. I'd say, if you live in Texas, "Go for it!"
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Ever data log that tune? If so how does everything look good?
#23
Honestly man. You are overthinking the whole thermostat thing. Try it, if it's not what you thought move on. It's a $40 investment. I feel as if you'll like the benefit of cooler temps IMO
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Thanks blue5.0, I do have a 170 t-stat and have used it. I do like the cooler temps, you sir are right. I was curious about the 170 vs people running the stock one and how it does too as far as tuning goes. I was kinda told it was a must for running tunes, but i now think it depends on how heavy modded one might be and how aggressive the tuning is. Just looking for peoples feedback. I have had some gear heads say that running a cooler one may actually hurt more than help on the warm up conditions. Some say the cats are affected. I would say people out west in more extreme conditions would definitely benefit more with tuning and fan settings. especially a ecoboost. I have tunes set up for both, the stock most recent being. That is why i started this thread and the data log thread to see how much or many even do it or use it to their benefit. Towing will definitely make a difference. Just trying to learn a little more about those 2 topics. thanks again for you contributions too, I hope I haven't got on anyones nerves.
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Originally Posted by Koolponycar
Thanks blue5.0, I do have a 170 t-stat and have used it. I do like the cooler temps, you sir are right. I was curious about the 170 vs people running the stock one and how it does too as far as tuning goes. I was kinda told it was a must for running tunes, but i now think it depends on how heavy modded one might be and how aggressive the tuning is. Just looking for peoples feedback. I have had some gear heads say that running a cooler one may actually hurt more than help on the warm up conditions. Some say the cats are affected. I would say people out west in more extreme conditions would definitely benefit more with tuning and fan settings. especially a ecoboost. I have tunes set up for both, the stock most recent being. That is why i started this thread and the data log thread to see how much or many even do it or use it to their benefit. Towing will definitely make a difference. Just trying to learn a little more about those 2 topics. thanks again for you contributions too, I hope I haven't got on anyones nerves.
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Koolponycar (06-30-2017)
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I monitored coolant and cat temperatures yesterday (unloaded) while at 91* ambient temp. Idling at a light and slow city driving, I saw ~ 1000* at the cats and a max of 1400* on the highway at 65 mph. My coolant temp remained consistent at 183* (a/c on); only fluctuating a couple of degrees cooler at one time. I never really monitored the cat temps too much before, but I want to say they might be ~100* or so cooler. Don't hold me to that though.
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I monitored coolant and cat temperatures yesterday (unloaded) while at 91* ambient temp. Idling at a light and slow city driving, I saw ~ 1000* at the cats and a max of 1400* on the highway at 65 mph. My coolant temp remained consistent at 183* (a/c on); only fluctuating a couple of degrees cooler at one time. I never really monitored the cat temps too much before, but I want to say they might be ~100* or so cooler. Don't hold me to that though.
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Thanks for that information. I have a x4 is that how you checked yours? Or using the live link with laptop choosing that PID? This is really a good way to see if their is a real difference on the cats. thank you sir. If your a/c was on then the fans run more too because of that, but your coolant temp was consistent holding at 183*
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I am due to get myself a smart phone, Is the android more user friendly than say a I-phone? As far as the Torque Pro app goes?
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I have never had an I-phone, so I can't vouch for that. I haven't really had any issues with the android operating system on my Samsung phones, in general or with the app. I recently added a companion to the app that allows it to alert to spark knock and degree of timing retard when it occurs. The 5 Star tune seems to working well to keep my timing within safe, but efficient, limits for my chosen octane rating. When I get a chance, I am going to try some 89 octane fuel and see how it plays with the current tuning.
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