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PhiDeltDave 11-19-2015 05:54 PM

What about putting a 6.2 into the body of a 2017 Raptor? I really like the look of the new body style.

solsurfr 11-19-2015 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by PhiDeltDave (Post 4423498)
What about putting a 6.2 into the body of a 2017 Raptor? I really like the look of the new body style.

Just not part of the overall strategy for Ford from what I can see...

gwpfan 11-20-2015 04:54 PM

I voted 17' based on a few items and what I've seen on the 15's:
1. 360 deg cameras (I am also hoping they can be enabled with less hassle than the current model)
2. Quieter truck
3. Bed lights and tailgate locks built in
4. Better interior storage
5. I 'think/hope' the productivity screen will be better - tire air pressure, various other views and I really hope they get the breadcrumbs working better 12 and earlier was good, 13' on sucks...
6. Hoping the more intelligent traction control settings will be as good as the claims are, although I've been getting better at disabling/putting it into sport mode to help....

Between my wife and I we have 3 3.5L Ecoboost's. We are very happy with them. I like my 14' Raptor a lot and have used it for ~40% off roading on the mileage that's on it, but the noise gets annoying between the exhaust drone and the engine noise at higher RPM. If I know I am going off road I take the Raptor since I have it. When driving on road I'll take the Eco most of the time. Sure the Raptor has the cool factor of a lot of people commenting/checking the truck out when driving in town :D so I will take it for such reasons every so often. I will admit, since adding sound deadening to the Raptor I have driven it more often now when I go to town.

The Eco's are just so much quieter. I really hope if they do put in the 'fake' engine noise over the speakers there is a way to disable it. Wife had a 12' Lincoln MKT with the 3.5L Eco, that car was quiet and a real pleasure to drive. We upgraded to a 14' MKT same engine and features and I am convinced it's fake engine noise piped in over the speakers and it is annoying and the 14' is a much louder car to drive.:mad:
My 12' Lariat for on road driving is more of a pleasure to drive than my 14' Raptor. I haven't tuned the Raptor yet, but the 12 3.5L tuned is a much quicker truck than the Raptor. Even w/the stock tune the 3.5L seems a touch quicker. Adding sound deadening to the Raptor has helped a lot with the noise concerns.

I am not going to run out and buy a 17 but I very well may keep my 14 and buy a 17 if funds allow....else just wait for an 18.

Likely what I'll do is a serious test drive of the 17 and even wait a bit to get reports back overall before I buy a 17. Maybe even go back to VORE as long as they have a 17 to do a real test drive.

My main concerns with the 17 are:
1. Ecoboost Turbo's and engine holding up to the off road dust and added heat of off road driving.
2. The low end torque of the 3.5L Eco and the sensitivity of the throttle. Far too easy to break the tires loose on the 3.5L Eco vs. the 6.2L. Many times off roading I just want to crawl up something and not spin the tires...
3. The 10 spd transmission rumors...it'll probably be fine, but definitely like to see some mileage....

The other thing is if your going to tow at all, yes I know the Raptor wasn't built for towing, but the 3.5L Eco wins hands down compared to the 6.2L. Towed the same loads and roads with both my 3.5L and 6.2L.

PhiDeltDave 11-20-2015 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by solsurfr (Post 4423518)
Just not part of the overall strategy for Ford from what I can see...

I'm meaning do an aftermarket engine swap.

solsurfr 11-23-2015 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by PhiDeltDave (Post 4424922)
I'm meaning do an aftermarket engine swap.

Got it but I think with all the technology dependencies, this wouldn't be very practical but I'm not much of an aftermarket guy either.

WarSurfer 11-23-2015 10:32 AM

The only real issue I see with engine swaps is the same problem with swaps on the Gen 1. Nobody has come up with a way to do the swap without losing all the electronic goodness that is specific to the Raptor (ORM, etc...). If a swap is going to cost you the Raptor unique goodies, might as well start with a much cheaper platform.

If I could keep all my Raptor specific electronics / capabilities and swap I'd have a 700+hp LS7 in mine.


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