PhiDeltDave

Correct, also, this 2017 raptor had better have better fuel economy than the 6.2s, otherwise, why the switch from V8 to ecoboost? I'll probably get a '17 raptor regardless, but my hope is for about 18 to 19 highway

Toddman38

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Ford, will just deny replacing them like they do everything else. Like 09-14 rear power sliders that explodes

AbitaPro

You said "In the end Ford knows this is better.....", you're correct, better for their bottom line!

They make huge profits now on both ends, new EB sales charging a premium upfront and then long term EB complex design with more components service and repairs!

NOVA99

http://www.leftlanenews.com/spied-20...ew-89963.html#

fx4210

Man I wish we could see more of it. I am getting the itch for a truck and I think this new raptor may be just the thing I need.

Blake USMC Vet

I may just wait until that SCrew comes out to get my new truck.

Blown F-150

I love how everything turns into a EcoBoost vs. 5.0 thread, geez.
Really, buy what you want. I can see a decent argument for the Raptor to have a V8 option, but the outgoing model only had one motor (except what, two years of the 5.4 to 6.2 switch?) because it is a small segment vehicle. I can't see them adding a V8 option unless the Eco completely bombs.

My opinion is still of the mindset that EcoBoost vs.5.0 Mpg's is a moot point. When you consider the 33lb ft of torque difference and it being available at a much lower RPM, the Eco shines. Add a Tune and your laughing. Does it sound like a V8, hell no, but personally I'm over that "fact" that a sound makes a truck a truck.

Again, to others sound is important, so buy accordingly. Ford makes both for a reason and that's because they sell and it put's money in their pocket. Vehicle owners are more emotional and brand loyal than the brands themselves. I know a Boat motor that is "Made" by Mercury, has a Suzuki power plant, with FORD heads! It's all about the bottom dollar and marketing. The more buzz around the Raptor, the more they will milk it for all it's worth.

Dang it, now I want one too!

TuxBlackFX4

This redesign won't be a small scale production, I don't think. Ford saw the $$$ for the previous generation, and saw how the new F150's sold, despite ridiculous price hikes. They'll be pushing these things off the assembly line. I'm not sold on the new style yet...engine, aluminum, body redesign, etc. Interior is sick, but I won't ditch my 2013 for one, especially the first model year.

Blown F-150

I guess, it's what you consider a small scale production. The best I can discern is that that Ford made an average of 4 Raptors per hour. Now I don't know how many hours a day or how many days of the year they were produced. High level, let's say they made 30,000 last year. That's pretty small peanuts compared to the rest of the F150 line (750,000ish trucks sold in 2014). They will want to keep the Raptor "Exclusive", that's why they stopped making it. All about the hype.

Personally, I think the same of the new one. When it's time to move on from my '14 FX4, I will likely look at the OBS Raptor. The only thing that would point me at a new one, is a massive improvement in MPG's. I can't see that really happening. I like the looks of the new one and can get a really good price (family works at a Ford Dealer), but from what I see right now a clean '14 would be my choice.

02_Lightning

I went from a 12 6.2 Harley to a 12 Raptor, then to a 12 FX4 ecoboost... Then back to a 12 raptor. The ecoboost fx4 was only owned for 6 short months. The ecoboost applied to the F150 was a horrible idea. I researched before I bought but was not scared as most of what you read is pure negativity. After owning my truck nust two weeks, i began to experience these same issues. The worst was the acceleration stutter - did it as my wife and I were passing another vehicle and we lost all power.... Could have killed several people. The issues i found are not specific to any year ... They all have them because of inherent design issues from adapting the engine to the F150. I have a 13 SHO as well and that car doesn't exhibit the same issues because its chargevair cooler is in a different spot.
As far as driving inpression and mpg, i would still take the 6.2. I think the 6.2 drives better and has more seat of the pants power. When in the FX4 ecoboost, it always felt like the engine was a rubber band ready to snap. I drove 2hrs to trade the FX4 for the Raptor... I got identical mileage with each - 18.1mpg. I have always done well with 6.2 mpg. I would never recommend anyone to get an ecoboost F150 - problematic and just not safe.