Jbrew

I noticed lol.

mbb

You bought an engine block warranted against defects.
Many of existing systems you didnt replace , can kill it, not the fault of engine mfg.

​​​​​​So many people dont understand this its laughable.

Especially.....since something may have caused the previous one to die, and wasnt fixed. A real good installer, will assess the total installation for operation, and make sure its operating normally. And insist on replacing anything that appears to be sub-par.

Basically they're manufacturing a new item to go into a old junk heap of a car. Many of their failures are not due to factory defects there due to failures of other systems. Often the same ones that caused the first engine to fail. Which is why a failed when usually gets shipped back to them for a tear down. And they and they alone determine the cause of failure. They can't do this if somebody else is already put a wrench on it and it and taken it apart. Put yourself in their position and you begin to understand why some of the things are done the way they are.

If someone not okay with this , well they should buy a new new car with a comprehensive warranty

Something simple as a clogged cat or bad injector can melt a piston.

CrisAnderson27

I understand completely. For $3500 however...when paying for $1500 in parts (If that)...I expect above and beyond.

I make high end kitchen knives for a living. In materials they cost me as little as a hundred dollars. They sell for literally thousands of dollars.

Each.

When my customers come to me and say "Your knife handle smells funny".

I fix it.

Jbrew

Agreed, - thought about that in my first or second post. Mentioned, I'd have to go through it. Check the cats, then back to compression checking things as I go. Best way...what else can you do ?

CrisAnderson27

I'd also like to add...I'm aware of what I bought, and what is covered. That doesn't mean that's how it was explained to me when I bought it, or that I have to be happy about it.

Laughable or not

mbb

<br />If if you read the reviews of some of the cheap engine replacement exchanges that are nationwide it's entertaining. I sympathize with somebody who spent $5,000 and still ends up with a vehicle that won't run, but you can tell usually pretty clearly when it was the engine manufacturers faults and when the person complaining just had ridiculous expectations.<br /><br />If you want a comprehensive warranty you need to replace every part of your engine management system from the computer and Fuel and air and EGR and PCV. Basically you need a new vehicle because it's not ever cost effective to replace everything with new parts. And just one bad injector can destroy your engine.<br /><br />Did you ask to replace all your injectors with new ones?<br />Did you asked him to go through all the grounds on your PCM?<br />Did you ask them to replace your entire EGR system?<br />How about replacing the cats in exhaust?<br /><br />Of course not because if you price them from Ford you know that it would run you a lot of additional money.<br /><br />The owner bears some responsibility in directing the amount of optional work done.<br /><br />But the most common is probably people that had a leaking head gasket and put crud in their system to try and seal it plugging the radiator up. So some cheap manufacturers will not warrant engine at all without showing proof that the radiator was replaced. Because the people that do that kind of thing can you buy the cheapest Replacements as well.... Also the reason all replacement engines have meltable heat tabs on them that the heads that melt at 241 degrees. It shows if the engine was overheated No Doubt.

CrisAnderson27

I think you misunderstood, or I didn't explain right

I paid $5600, including install. The parts and labor to build that thing are squat. I paid for the warranty as explained by the repair shop:

"If anything at all goes wrong with the engine in 3yrs, take it to a dealer and they'll replace it."

I didn't pay $3xxx for the engine (plus $2xxx in labor). He had cheaper options. I paid $3xxx for what I thought was a bulletproof warranty. If I'd been in a better position (meaning something other than stranded 1000 miles from home with 2 kids and a blown up truck) at the time...a LOT of things would have gone differently.

In the end it doesn't matter. I have what I have. It is what it is. Please feel free to find humor in it all you like. It just makes the helpful people here who are worthy of appreciation, that much more appreciated

mbb

And you have your warranty

On WHAT you purchased
the engine
And on the work of installation

You you don't have it on any damage that might be caused by failure or improper operation of any other part of your truck. Because that would be stupid. No different from expecting them to replace your engine because somebody put sugar in your gas tank.

I put in an engine 2.5 years , 50k miles ago. I understood my warranty long before I gave them a check. I had the time to select my shop carefully. I went with a locally-owned engine replacement shop that was doing 3 or 4 engines a week. Its still a gamble. When I check the codes the first thing I could see that was when they started the new engine up they didn't have the MAF attached....

I haven't had any problems in going on three years except for they did not put my power steering pulley on the shaft all the way and it ate up a couple of belts before I figured it out . And the new motorcraft tstat failed to reach operating temperature. Good thing I was watching.

If you're going to run non-stock things like tunes....you cant expect any assisance in assessing performance from a dealer really.

I understand you think you paid $3,000 for a comprehensive warranty fir any reason, but the truth is you were simply mistaken. There is no such thing with the replacement engine from any manufacturer. Although if a vehicle was new enough you might be able to purchase an aftermarket warranty that gave you that protection bumper to bumper, or drivetran .These may run $2,000 -$3000 or so, and the cutoff is somewhere around 75,000 . Frequently offered when buying used vehicles today .

02_Black_On_White

MBB, when was the last time you dealt with Ford warranty service on an engine / transmission? I'm curious because your logic is flawed. If all ford had to do was say "it's your fault" then they wouldn't need a warranty program in the first place now would they? OP is CORRECT in his notion of the 3 year warranty on the ford ( actually AER ) reman. Why are you jumping down his throat for an issue he's trying to resolve? My trusted ford master mechanic with 35 years experience laughed at your argument.

mbb

How about because i have an aer engine and read my warranty...... His dealer told him same apparently, that was point. I dont know what your argument is really.

If your saying ford is offerring unvonditional engine replacement for any reason it fails..........get that in writing. Will they replace it if run without oil? Only if the suppled oil pump failed .

And you probably didnt notice how ford shafted everyone in the 3V 2004- engines. Bought, warranted, and maintained via the book. Even at dealer.

Heres ford limited warranty

Consider hanging out with smarter people.