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Old 11-01-2017, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 01f150scab
I am looking for electrical schematics to diagnose this ??
Yea, you mentioned that at least twice in the thread. Now you have it question form. Where have you looked so far ? Perhaps I can direct you to the manual for your truck. If that's what your looking for, but your not really being clear enough.
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Hope this is what you mean...



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White89gt,
thank you, it is the type of schematics that I am looking for.
I have searched the web and forums and seen the schematics that you posted but I need to trace back the provenance of the +12V at the injectors. According to your schematics, I will like to see page 25-1, and page 25-2.
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This is everything else I've got that looks possibly helpful....



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Thanks white89gt, will have to check it out this weekend.
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No problem. Hope it helps.

Not sure if you noticed, but these are listed under NGV specific schematics. So it should be exactly what you are dealing with.
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my understanding is that the fuel injectors are powered through the pcm power relay,through a fuse in the battery junction box,
do you have diagrams on the fuse panel + fuse chart? (2001 F150, 5.4L triton bi-fuel)
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Looking at that 1st and 2nd schematic 361 R is the common feed to each injector, the IAC EGR and a few other things. Nest to where it shows the connector number by each component does it say *2V? I can't tell. IF so that would indicate that that it should have 2V NOT 12V I seem to remember a while ago someone asking how to drop the 12V down to something else to test an injector
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I did some looking and here is what I found

Circuit 361 (your 12V supply) between S127 and S129 goes through connector C120 pin 9 as follows:
S127 > C120-9M > C120-F > S129 > S131

Splice Locations (no diagrams available):
S127 - Engine control sensor harness, near T/O to C165 windshield wiper motor
S129 - Fuel charge harness, in T/O to C1012 coil on plug #2
S131 - Engine control sensor harness, near T/O to C165 windshield wiper motor

Download this file: http://www.mediafire.com/file/qr1zdbhzl3z/1998 Expy Ckt 361 page 1.pdf for an underhood connector layout and a C120 pinout.

I'd start by opening C120 and performing a visual inspection of pin 9 of each half. If no faults are obvious, I'd do continuity checks between the C120 pins and the respective splices (or known loads).

ETA: i do not think this is for Bi-fuel, but may help you
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Raybz: "Looking at that 1st and 2nd schematic 361 R is the common feed to each injector, the IAC EGR and a few other things. Nest to where it shows the connector number by each component does it say *2V? I can't tell." >> that is +12V, coming from PCM power relay. but I have a hard time reading the pin outs from schematics that I have.
I downloaded the file and will go to mechanic to check it out later.
Thanks



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