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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 11:04 PM
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One thing I would like to see, and I know another member mentioned it was that possibly wiring up the windows so that we could program a 4 button remote and have the trunk button roll all the windows down. That would be quite awesome. Sorry if i'm thread jacking..
I dont have a key fob with the trunk button, so i would have to do some testing. It could be done with the unlock button or any button that works and goes to a circuit. Does the trunk unlock initiate any type of current in the RASP module?
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 11:11 PM
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I dont have a key fob with the trunk button, so i would have to do some testing. It could be done with the unlock button or any button that works and goes to a circuit. Does the trunk unlock initiate any type of current in the RASP module?
Perhaps they're referring to an auxiliary button on aftermarket fobs? Also, I wonder if the truck would recognize a constant unlock or lock command... for example, tap once then hold unlock for auto-down? My Accords, as well as my Challenger and I believe my Impala had that feature. However, once the unlock was released, the windows would stop moving.

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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ibd2328
I dont have a key fob with the trunk button, so i would have to do some testing. It could be done with the unlock button or any button that works and goes to a circuit. Does the trunk unlock initiate any type of current in the RASP module?
Not real sure... I can do a bit of research though and see what I can find on this.
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 11:55 PM
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I dont think that is available/came out for our generations of trucks. You would have to wire it up that way. Which can be done. Got lots of projects to do this week/weekend.
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ibd2328
I dont think that is available/came out for our generations of trucks. You would have to wire it up that way. Which can be done. Got lots of projects to do this week/weekend.
Makes sense since there would be no point of having a trunk release for an F150! And I do believe you're right... I'm not sure if they even had a glass release for the expy's. If they did, this would become a lot easier. The navi's for our gen didn't have it either, did they?

Either way, I am interested in something like this, so I will be spending some time trying to find something about this. Probably won't find much, if anything, but it can't hurt.
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 11:53 AM
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Don't the lights come on if you turn the wipers on when the headlight switch is in the auto position? I don't know for sure, but I would assume.
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 12:31 PM
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Nope, and not all trucks have the auto lamps
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 02:22 PM
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I'm not sure why you would want to hook both together. It seems like a lot of work, for something that isn't used that much, by your description. Just wondering why you'd want to add them. You said that most state have the law that requires headlights on when raining, but upon looking it up, can only find 5 states that have it. California, New York, Illinois, Kentucky and Ohio. We do not have that in Alaska. Maybe we should start a list of what states do and which ones don't. Could be interesting.

It wouldn't work with Daylight Running Lights as they are on when the key is on, but then you'd already have what you are trying to do. I guess, you could move the relay from the ignition side of the system and hook it to the wipers. It would disable the DRL and put it on the wipers. Hmmm...

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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by akdoggie
I'm not sure why you would want to hook both together. It seems like a lot of work, for something that isn't used that much, by your description. Just wondering why you'd want to add them. You said that most state have the law that requires headlights on when raining, but upon looking it up, can only find 5 states that have it. California, New York, Illinois, Kentucky and Ohio. We do not have that in Alaska. Maybe we should start a list of what states do and which ones don't. Could be interesting.

It wouldn't work with Daylight Running Lights as they are on when the key is on, but then you'd already have what you are trying to do. I guess, you could move the relay from the ignition side of the system and hook it to the wipers. It would disable the DRL and put it on the wipers. Hmmm...
As of April 2010, Alabama, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, Missouri, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia and West Virginia have the "wipers on, lights on" law. Thats over 50% of the US, so mathematically it is "most" states.

As for the DRL's, Daytime running lights are not enough to satisfy the law. You must turn on your headlights when your wipers are on because doing so also causes your tail and side lights to illuminate, allowing other road users to better see you no matter which direction they are coming from. So relaying the wipers/lights past the DRL wouldn't be an issue at all. A simple SPDT relay would allow this to be done.
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ibd2328
As of April 2010, Alabama, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, Missouri, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia and West Virginia have the "wipers on, lights on" law. Thats over 50% of the US, so mathematically it is "most" states.

As for the DRL's, Daytime running lights are not enough to satisfy the law. You must turn on your headlights when your wipers are on because doing so also causes your tail and side lights to illuminate, allowing other road users to better see you no matter which direction they are coming from. So relaying the wipers/lights past the DRL wouldn't be an issue at all. A simple SPDT relay would allow this to be done.

I'm in Alaska and we don't have that law. Actually I'd never heard of it before today. I go to Washington and Oregon and they don't have it either, so you can see why I'm in the dark on this one. If you notice, the whole Pacific Northwest doesn't make your list. I wonder why Washington state isn't on the list? lol

We drive with our lights on when it snows (logically with all the white cars in white snow conditions) but don't get enough hard rain to make a law of it. I can only remember a handful of times when it rained so hard that it was dangerous out. We just don't get that kind of hard rain weather as the lower 48 states do.

What we have are safety corridors where you have to run with your lights on at all times, but no rain/head light laws. These are no pass zones that are double fines for speeding and the list goes on. I guess we all have laws that aren't universal, and need to be across this country. They must write these laws to collect out of state revenue. LOL
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