Flowmaster Super 10 muffler
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Flowmaster Super 10 muffler
I purchased one for my 02 F150 cause it sounded great on our Durango but when I put it on this truck it didn't sound any different then the one I took off. Any ideas why?
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These trucks are actually pretty quiet even with *no* muffler. The four cats tone things down quite a bit.
EDIT: But there's no way that 10 isn't louder than the stock muffler.
EDIT: But there's no way that 10 isn't louder than the stock muffler.
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everyone here is correct
first - it will NEVER sound as good as any dodge, chevy, or toyota. That aggressive/throaty sound is based on many factors that include firing order, camshaft selection, and having a true dual exhaust. On chevy/dogde/toyota all they need to do is replace the muffler. On ours, we need to spend a lot of $$.
So I've been through a few mufflers and spent a couple thousand dollars trying to find a louder exhaust and this is what I found:
-magnaflow 22" -> quietest - almost like stock. Just a little louder on startup.
-magnaflow 18" -> better, but still pretty quiet
-flowmaster super 10 -> a little better; you can start to hear it now, but still pretty quiet.
-flowmaster 40 with 3" piping -> you can finally hear it between 1,800-2,100rpm, but there will be drone
also be aware that when you start to hear it, it's mostly drone. the firing order and cats and camshaft make the exhaust note on this truck mostly a monotone sound
ways you can make it louder:
-flowmaster 40 with down firing exhaust tip as close to the cab as possible - it will echo off the ground
-delete rear cats - there are 4 total (this may be illegal based on your state)
-make a true dual (will throw codes, may run poorly, costs a lot of $$ )
-get new camshafts installed with new mufflers (lots of $$)
personally, I've been curious about the lightning exhaust. Everything I read says the lightning is the same block as the non-lightning, and I've seen the question asked, but no confirmation about the installation being successful...just comments that it's shorter
first - it will NEVER sound as good as any dodge, chevy, or toyota. That aggressive/throaty sound is based on many factors that include firing order, camshaft selection, and having a true dual exhaust. On chevy/dogde/toyota all they need to do is replace the muffler. On ours, we need to spend a lot of $$.
So I've been through a few mufflers and spent a couple thousand dollars trying to find a louder exhaust and this is what I found:
-magnaflow 22" -> quietest - almost like stock. Just a little louder on startup.
-magnaflow 18" -> better, but still pretty quiet
-flowmaster super 10 -> a little better; you can start to hear it now, but still pretty quiet.
-flowmaster 40 with 3" piping -> you can finally hear it between 1,800-2,100rpm, but there will be drone
also be aware that when you start to hear it, it's mostly drone. the firing order and cats and camshaft make the exhaust note on this truck mostly a monotone sound
ways you can make it louder:
-flowmaster 40 with down firing exhaust tip as close to the cab as possible - it will echo off the ground
-delete rear cats - there are 4 total (this may be illegal based on your state)
-make a true dual (will throw codes, may run poorly, costs a lot of $$ )
-get new camshafts installed with new mufflers (lots of $$)
personally, I've been curious about the lightning exhaust. Everything I read says the lightning is the same block as the non-lightning, and I've seen the question asked, but no confirmation about the installation being successful...just comments that it's shorter
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everyone here is correct
first - it will NEVER sound as good as any dodge, chevy, or toyota. That aggressive/throaty sound is based on many factors that include firing order, camshaft selection, and having a true dual exhaust. On chevy/dogde/toyota all they need to do is replace the muffler. On ours, we need to spend a lot of $$.
So I've been through a few mufflers and spent a couple thousand dollars trying to find a louder exhaust and this is what I found:
-magnaflow 22" -> quietest - almost like stock. Just a little louder on startup.
-magnaflow 18" -> better, but still pretty quiet
-flowmaster super 10 -> a little better; you can start to hear it now, but still pretty quiet.
-flowmaster 40 with 3" piping -> you can finally hear it between 1,800-2,100rpm, but there will be drone
also be aware that when you start to hear it, it's mostly drone. the firing order and cats and camshaft make the exhaust note on this truck mostly a monotone sound
ways you can make it louder:
-flowmaster 40 with down firing exhaust tip as close to the cab as possible - it will echo off the ground
-delete rear cats - there are 4 total (this may be illegal based on your state)
-make a true dual (will throw codes, may run poorly, costs a lot of $$ )
-get new camshafts installed with new mufflers (lots of $$)
personally, I've been curious about the lightning exhaust. Everything I read says the lightning is the same block as the non-lightning, and I've seen the question asked, but no confirmation about the installation being successful...just comments that it's shorter
first - it will NEVER sound as good as any dodge, chevy, or toyota. That aggressive/throaty sound is based on many factors that include firing order, camshaft selection, and having a true dual exhaust. On chevy/dogde/toyota all they need to do is replace the muffler. On ours, we need to spend a lot of $$.
So I've been through a few mufflers and spent a couple thousand dollars trying to find a louder exhaust and this is what I found:
-magnaflow 22" -> quietest - almost like stock. Just a little louder on startup.
-magnaflow 18" -> better, but still pretty quiet
-flowmaster super 10 -> a little better; you can start to hear it now, but still pretty quiet.
-flowmaster 40 with 3" piping -> you can finally hear it between 1,800-2,100rpm, but there will be drone
also be aware that when you start to hear it, it's mostly drone. the firing order and cats and camshaft make the exhaust note on this truck mostly a monotone sound
ways you can make it louder:
-flowmaster 40 with down firing exhaust tip as close to the cab as possible - it will echo off the ground
-delete rear cats - there are 4 total (this may be illegal based on your state)
-make a true dual (will throw codes, may run poorly, costs a lot of $$ )
-get new camshafts installed with new mufflers (lots of $$)
personally, I've been curious about the lightning exhaust. Everything I read says the lightning is the same block as the non-lightning, and I've seen the question asked, but no confirmation about the installation being successful...just comments that it's shorter
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While I agree that the firing order makes a difference, the mod motors have the same firing order as my SBF 5.0 Mustang, and even with 4 cats it sounded WAY throatier than my F150 ever will. The cam grind is the biggest difference IMO.
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It also has true dual pipes, though, and is shorter system. The stock cats are smaller, too, if I recall correctly (?).
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That is true 86+, but 85's were a Y system that split back out to dual. So, kind of a single. They sound the same as the dual. I always hated owning an 85.... not nearly the aftermarket as the EFI cars had.
That also factored into my opinion on the cam making a nice difference.
That also factored into my opinion on the cam making a nice difference.