bdtaylor1979

Just a thought, but my neighbor across the street replaced the head gaskets on a pontiac grand am and the car would overheat. He replaced the temp sensor and it still overheated. Someone suggested that he replace the coolant res cap and that took care of it. Apparently if the cap is bad it can cause an overheating issue. The coolant res cap on that pontiac is similar to the one on our trucks. Again, just a thought.

fordtec

Test for a bad head gasket. Here's an inexpensive way to test your cylinders for leakage into the cooling system. Pull out all your spark plugs. Fill your coolant tank to the brim so that you can't put any more in. Put one spark plug in each cylinder at a time. Crank the engine over while watching the coolant tank. If the coolant pushes out when the cylinder makes compression, you've got bad hg's or cracked heads.

SteelTherapy

Thanks, but I've already replaced the cap.

SteelTherapy

I've already tested for exhaust gasses in the coolant and it came up negative.

What I'm looking for is a way to purge all of the air from the coolant system.

fordtec

Those things may work. But I've already tried it on a customers car, came up negative for combustion gases. Then later tested it the way I said and it had a cracked head. I'm telling you- these are basics of testing an engine for bad hg's/cracked heads. Those gas things dont always work.

Just tryin to help you out- not worth it to do all this work and throwing parts at it.

Didn't you say it misses and runs ****ty first start in the am?

If you really want to Try getting air bubbles out, use a radkit, aka vacuum cooling system filler. Puts a vacuum on the whole cooling system, then draws in the coolant

gixxer1127

there is a kit that uses shop air to remove all air from the coolant system then uses vacuum to fill its

SteelTherapy

Still working on this problem.

I replaced the thermostat again with an OEM one. No change.

Question:

If the heater core were intermittently blocked or the flow restrictor in the heater hose was blocked intermittently, could it cause this issue? The idea would be that with the thermostat closed and the heater core effectively blocked you would get little to no coolant flow. This could cause superheating of the coolant leading to localized vaporization of the coolant. This vapor area could give the sudden jump to a high temp. When I start and stop the engine a couple times the blockage gives way or the thermostat opens and I now have coolant flow.

My problem never occurs once the thermostat is open.

Backflush the heater core? Run without a thermostat to verify? Thoughts?

SteelTherapy

Ok, well it's either the cylinder head gasket or the cylinder head. Head gasket test...


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tansupercrew

When you use that HC tester you shouldn't touch the coolant at all. The positive result looks more green in my experience. Wash out the tester and try again with some fresh fluid. You don't want any antifreeze in there- just hot vapor.

udderbrudder

I always wait til it cools before performing this test. Even the hot vapour will contaminate the test. With my tester the chemical will turn green if contaminated with coolant vapour. It will turn yellow with the presence of co2.
The system is self bleeding but you can cut a heater hose and add a flushing tee. Leaving the cap off the tee will allow air to escape. It should be installed in the highest spot possible. The "gurgling" sound you're hearing in the dash is air in the heater core. I'm still suspecting a leaky HG. I'd re-do the test. Engine needs to be warmed, T-stat open, and then left to cool again prior to testing. Good luck.