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Old Mar 12, 2023 | 11:27 AM
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How close is the ignition harness to the AC accumulator, the top of it ? While the truck is running ruff, pull the harness further away from it. If idle smooths out or deflects with movement, that's the issue.

The harness dips or loops down towards the accumulator there. With time or coming into contact with the top of the accumulator itself, the insulation may chafe and foil shielding damaged. In turn creates a magnetic disturbance and ignition havoc. Simply pull the harness away to confirm as explained above.
I never knew that, I will give that a check to see what it looks like. I saw a video not too long ago where when the mechanic turned the wheel, the fuel trims went up...he looked at the plug for the power steering and it was all chewed up. He replaced it, and no more problems. That's not the issue I'm having, but very interesting nonetheless.
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Old Mar 12, 2023 | 12:23 PM
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Yea the damage occurs right where it loops over the accumulator. I've seen the loop resting on top of the accumulator in the past. Guy was coming back from vacation, was able to zip tie the harness back and away from it. Truck then ran fine , made it back home.
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Old Mar 12, 2023 | 12:45 PM
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Can you be more descriptive than "rough idle"? What idle RPM, it doesn't show on your screen grab? Is that screen grab at idle?

Your MAF reading seems high. Rule of thumb, apparently, is one gram per second for each liter of displacement. 1.0 lb/min = 7.6 g/s. My 4.2 idles at 4.5 g/s.

Probably help to describe how it runs and drives also, and if the idle "roughness" is at all temperatures or only hot or cold. The more information the better.
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Old Mar 12, 2023 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrew
Yea the damage occurs right where it loops over the accumulator. I've seen the loop resting on top of the accumulator in the past. Guy was coming back from vacation, was able to zip tie the harness back and away from it. Truck then ran fine , made it back home.
I'm not seeing any wires resting on it. However, I did pull the vaccum line from the EGR vaccum solenoid off of the EGR valve, and the truck jumped right back to a waaayyy better idle. So, I suppose that means the solenoid is bad? I tried putting 12v to it and nothing happened, it didn't make the "click" like the valve was moving. When I put the vaccum back on the EGR valve, the truck dies or almost dies.
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Old Mar 12, 2023 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BareBonesXL
Can you be more descriptive than "rough idle"? What idle RPM, it doesn't show on your screen grab? Is that screen grab at idle?

Your MAF reading seems high. Rule of thumb, apparently, is one gram per second for each liter of displacement. 1.0 lb/min = 7.6 g/s. My 4.2 idles at 4.5 g/s.

Probably help to describe how it runs and drives also, and if the idle "roughness" is at all temperatures or only hot or cold. The more information the better.
Idle is bad cold and hot, but it usually jumps back into rhythm when I hit the accelerator. I just messed with the EGR vaccum solenoid, pulled the vaccum line off of the EGR valve and the truck ran way better...when I put the vaccum back to the EGR the truck almost dies and did die a couple of times.
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Old Mar 12, 2023 | 12:54 PM
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Idle is bad cold and hot, but it usually jumps back into rhythm when I hit the accelerator. I just messed with the EGR vaccum solenoid, pulled the vaccum line off of the EGR valve and the truck ran way better...when I put the vaccum back to the EGR the truck almost dies and did die a couple of times.
when I put 12v to the solenoid, nothing happened. No audible click or anything.
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Old Mar 12, 2023 | 04:13 PM
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I'm not seeing any wires resting on it. However, I did pull the vaccum line from the EGR vaccum solenoid off of the EGR valve, and the truck jumped right back to a waaayyy better idle. So, I suppose that means the solenoid is bad? I tried putting 12v to it and nothing happened, it didn't make the "click" like the valve was moving. When I put the vaccum back on the EGR valve, the truck dies or almost dies.
Doesn't have to be on it. To close to it. It's a magnetic disturbance. You have to pull it further away while running like I said. I guess you don't understand.
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Old Mar 12, 2023 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrew
Doesn't have to be on it. To close to it. It's a magnetic disturbance. You have to pull it further away while running like I said. I guess you don't understand.
Yes, actually I understand just fine. Apparently YOU must not understand what "there are no wires near it" means. Learn to read and comprehend before you open your jaws, mouth breather.
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Old Mar 12, 2023 | 05:40 PM
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Yes, actually I understand just fine. Apparently YOU must not understand what "there are no wires near it" means. Learn to read and comprehend before you open your jaws, mouth breather.
Easy there bud he was just trying to help. I guess we're through here.
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One of the smartest people I know is a mouth breather. He has sinus problems.
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