Won't Turn Over After Transmission Work
03-08-2023, 10:45 PM
#21
Take a picture of the other side a little above the location for the Digital Range Selector so that we get a view of the two electrical connection points (they can be empty for the photo) on the left side of the transmission. I want to make sure that we are looking at a 4R70E or a 4R75E transmission. I already know you are a 4R70E or a 4R75E but seeing is believing.
One way be sure you get an exact match for your transmission is to match the PKF-GF0 of your existing transmission label to a PKF-GF0 in the scrap yard. I am guessing the PKF-GF0 is specific to your 4.2 engine and it's probably unlikely will have that exact match but there should be compatible transmissions that will direct fit your 2008 4.2 liter. It would be a good idea to call the yard and ask about interchange before you are actually in the yard looking. I know that my 2007 4.6 liter has three starter mounting bolts (one is on top and you have to feel for it) and I believe the bell housing on a 5.4 liter only has two starter mounting bolts. You need to make sure that your 4.2 starter bolts match the transmission housing you may be purchasing.
Don't buy a trans from a 4x4 as the output shaft is longer and the trans housing utilizes an addition extension housing. With the exception of the output shaft the internals are the same 2008 to a 2008 even with the 2 bolt or 3 bolt issue and I believe 2007 internals are a match also. 2005 probably not, 2006 likely the same as 2008. You can tell which ones will match by checking for the two electrical connections previously mentioned.
One way be sure you get an exact match for your transmission is to match the PKF-GF0 of your existing transmission label to a PKF-GF0 in the scrap yard. I am guessing the PKF-GF0 is specific to your 4.2 engine and it's probably unlikely will have that exact match but there should be compatible transmissions that will direct fit your 2008 4.2 liter. It would be a good idea to call the yard and ask about interchange before you are actually in the yard looking. I know that my 2007 4.6 liter has three starter mounting bolts (one is on top and you have to feel for it) and I believe the bell housing on a 5.4 liter only has two starter mounting bolts. You need to make sure that your 4.2 starter bolts match the transmission housing you may be purchasing.
Don't buy a trans from a 4x4 as the output shaft is longer and the trans housing utilizes an addition extension housing. With the exception of the output shaft the internals are the same 2008 to a 2008 even with the 2 bolt or 3 bolt issue and I believe 2007 internals are a match also. 2005 probably not, 2006 likely the same as 2008. You can tell which ones will match by checking for the two electrical connections previously mentioned.
03-09-2023, 04:43 AM
#22
Senior Member
ReluctantRepairman,
Your picture shows, two locations where the screws have been left in place and 1) Location for the Output Speed Sensor (on the right), 2) the other speed sensor which I think is called a VSS, vehicle speed sensor (on the left). So, your transmission is either a 4R70E or a 4R75E. It is not a 4R70W or 4R75W. The sticker in the driver's door jam, "MFD, BY FORD Motor CO." under "TR" reads as a Q (see post #7).
Q= 4-speed automatic, 4R75E
What is the website for your local U-Pull? I would like to view their interchange information.
jimboy
Your picture shows, two locations where the screws have been left in place and 1) Location for the Output Speed Sensor (on the right), 2) the other speed sensor which I think is called a VSS, vehicle speed sensor (on the left). So, your transmission is either a 4R70E or a 4R75E. It is not a 4R70W or 4R75W. The sticker in the driver's door jam, "MFD, BY FORD Motor CO." under "TR" reads as a Q (see post #7).
Q= 4-speed automatic, 4R75E
What is the website for your local U-Pull? I would like to view their interchange information.
jimboy
Last edited by Jimboy; 03-09-2023 at 04:59 AM.
03-09-2023, 03:24 PM
#23
ReluctantRepairman,
Your picture shows, two locations where the screws have been left in place and 1) Location for the Output Speed Sensor (on the right), 2) the other speed sensor which I think is called a VSS, vehicle speed sensor (on the left). So, your transmission is either a 4R70E or a 4R75E. It is not a 4R70W or 4R75W. The sticker in the driver's door jam, "MFD, BY FORD Motor CO." under "TR" reads as a Q (see post #7).
Q= 4-speed automatic, 4R75E
What is the website for your local U-Pull? I would like to view their interchange information.
jimboy
Your picture shows, two locations where the screws have been left in place and 1) Location for the Output Speed Sensor (on the right), 2) the other speed sensor which I think is called a VSS, vehicle speed sensor (on the left). So, your transmission is either a 4R70E or a 4R75E. It is not a 4R70W or 4R75W. The sticker in the driver's door jam, "MFD, BY FORD Motor CO." under "TR" reads as a Q (see post #7).
Q= 4-speed automatic, 4R75E
What is the website for your local U-Pull? I would like to view their interchange information.
jimboy
The website:
U-Pull and Pay
Last edited by ReluctantRepairman; 03-10-2023 at 07:28 AM.
03-09-2023, 06:31 PM
#24
Senior Member
ReluctantRepairman,
So today I was at one of my local U-Pulls (Mobile AL) and their inventory shows a match. I was in a pouring rainstorm but I did confirm what they had was a 2008 F-150 2WD with a 4.2 liter engine. I had intended to look at the metal tag but in the rain storm I did not even confirm that the transmission was still in this truck. Inventory person did not know if transmission was still installed.
The reason for the visit was to gather some plastic trim parts for a 2005 GMC Envoy I am working on to sell and I was in a hurry.
jimboy
So today I was at one of my local U-Pulls (Mobile AL) and their inventory shows a match. I was in a pouring rainstorm but I did confirm what they had was a 2008 F-150 2WD with a 4.2 liter engine. I had intended to look at the metal tag but in the rain storm I did not even confirm that the transmission was still in this truck. Inventory person did not know if transmission was still installed.
The reason for the visit was to gather some plastic trim parts for a 2005 GMC Envoy I am working on to sell and I was in a hurry.
jimboy
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03-13-2023, 09:45 AM
#25
ReluctantRepairman,
So today I was at one of my local U-Pulls (Mobile AL) and their inventory shows a match. I was in a pouring rainstorm but I did confirm what they had was a 2008 F-150 2WD with a 4.2 liter engine. I had intended to look at the metal tag but in the rain storm I did not even confirm that the transmission was still in this truck. Inventory person did not know if transmission was still installed.
The reason for the visit was to gather some plastic trim parts for a 2005 GMC Envoy I am working on to sell and I was in a hurry.
jimboy
So today I was at one of my local U-Pulls (Mobile AL) and their inventory shows a match. I was in a pouring rainstorm but I did confirm what they had was a 2008 F-150 2WD with a 4.2 liter engine. I had intended to look at the metal tag but in the rain storm I did not even confirm that the transmission was still in this truck. Inventory person did not know if transmission was still installed.
The reason for the visit was to gather some plastic trim parts for a 2005 GMC Envoy I am working on to sell and I was in a hurry.
jimboy
I then tore up some seals when trying to get the direct drive clutch back together so those are on order....
Appreciate the help!
The rebuild will continue.
Last edited by ReluctantRepairman; 03-13-2023 at 09:49 AM.
05-14-2023, 01:14 PM
#27
Well, I'm stuck again.
Got everything put together again, checking my end play everything is as it should be. I put the new torque converter on and made sure there were three clicks as it went on. It spins fine and was about 1.5 inches from the edge of the bell housing. I was also able to turn the drive plate just fine to get the bolts lined up. I managed to get the trans back up and everything line up. The bolts went in fine with not much pressure (but more that I could do with my fingers).
The problem is now the drive plate will not turn. I have worked on it quite a bit but it will not budge. so I cannot get the new nuts on the tc bolts.
I checked and there is a bit of clearance between the drive plate and bolts. So it's not bound up there.
What did I miss?
Got everything put together again, checking my end play everything is as it should be. I put the new torque converter on and made sure there were three clicks as it went on. It spins fine and was about 1.5 inches from the edge of the bell housing. I was also able to turn the drive plate just fine to get the bolts lined up. I managed to get the trans back up and everything line up. The bolts went in fine with not much pressure (but more that I could do with my fingers).
The problem is now the drive plate will not turn. I have worked on it quite a bit but it will not budge. so I cannot get the new nuts on the tc bolts.
I checked and there is a bit of clearance between the drive plate and bolts. So it's not bound up there.
What did I miss?
05-14-2023, 01:21 PM
#28
Senior Member
Well, I'm stuck again.
Got everything put together again, checking my end play everything is as it should be. I put the new torque converter on and made sure there were three clicks as it went on. It spins fine and was about 1.5 inches from the edge of the bell housing. I was also able to turn the drive plate just fine to get the bolts lined up. I managed to get the trans back up and everything line up. The bolts went in fine with not much pressure (but more that I could do with my fingers).
The problem is now the drive plate will not turn. I have worked on it quite a bit but it will not budge. so I cannot get the new nuts on the tc bolts.
I checked and there is a bit of clearance between the drive plate and bolts. So it's not bound up there.
What did I miss?
Got everything put together again, checking my end play everything is as it should be. I put the new torque converter on and made sure there were three clicks as it went on. It spins fine and was about 1.5 inches from the edge of the bell housing. I was also able to turn the drive plate just fine to get the bolts lined up. I managed to get the trans back up and everything line up. The bolts went in fine with not much pressure (but more that I could do with my fingers).
The problem is now the drive plate will not turn. I have worked on it quite a bit but it will not budge. so I cannot get the new nuts on the tc bolts.
I checked and there is a bit of clearance between the drive plate and bolts. So it's not bound up there.
What did I miss?
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05-15-2023, 07:34 AM
#29
05-15-2023, 09:23 AM
#30
Senior Member
Ok. I suggest you turn it only in the clockwise direction like you are trying to tighten the bolt to be safe, since this is the direction the engine is designed to turn in.
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