Truck Misfires with No Codes
#11
Timber Baron
Check spark plug torque.
Sounds dumb, yes, but that's what kept sending a friend's 5.4 3v into limp mode. 25lb-ft.
Sounds dumb, yes, but that's what kept sending a friend's 5.4 3v into limp mode. 25lb-ft.
#12
Mark
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#13
#14
TechRep,
The CEL has never come on but the misfires are so bad now it feels like you are riding a bucking bronco until I let off the gas and get back on it a little harder.
As far as make of spark plugs I don't know. I had a shop do them for me since the factory plugs have the tendency to break in half and drop into the cylinder. I didn't want to deal with that nightmare. The shop that did it said two of the eight broke during removal as it was. Since the plugs are buried so deep, I figure if I'm going to go to the trouble of changing the coils then I'll just do the plugs too.
The CEL has never come on but the misfires are so bad now it feels like you are riding a bucking bronco until I let off the gas and get back on it a little harder.
As far as make of spark plugs I don't know. I had a shop do them for me since the factory plugs have the tendency to break in half and drop into the cylinder. I didn't want to deal with that nightmare. The shop that did it said two of the eight broke during removal as it was. Since the plugs are buried so deep, I figure if I'm going to go to the trouble of changing the coils then I'll just do the plugs too.
#15
I've got a fix for you. My truck did the same thing and my plugs had been changed 40k miles ago. This time I changed not only the plugs but the COP insulators and springs too. Problem solved
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#16
To all that are nice enough to try to help me.
I'm at work right now and not able to be on the site all the time. I will check back as much as I can during the day.
Also this truck is my daily driver, so I need to make sure whatever I do during the week needs to be completed quickly.
I'm at work right now and not able to be on the site all the time. I will check back as much as I can during the day.
Also this truck is my daily driver, so I need to make sure whatever I do during the week needs to be completed quickly.
#17
I have a feeling....if the shop did it...they probably used Autolites or Champions.
I would pull one...check brand and go from there. Just my .02
I would pull one...check brand and go from there. Just my .02
#18
LightningRod
Absolutely no disrespect intended and I routinely follow your posts.
But on THIS ONE, may I respectfully disagree - with the first three statements, and qualify my agreement with the fourth. A Mode 06 OBDII test on my 2004 with 220,500 miles reports ZERO misfires on all eight cylinders for the last ten drive cycles. I run this test periodically - and that is the norm. However, I agree misfires have to get pretty bad before a DTC is set. The PCM must have a fairly high count setting before it sets a code.
I change plugs every 50K now. use only Motorcraft SP515's, replace boots each time & use dielectric grease, stretch & clean the coil boot springs & COP spring contact, AND I clean ALL the carbon build-up out of the cyl head spark plug holes below the threads w/solvent soaked rag, and make sure EVERYTHING (including spark plug ceramic) is clean as a hospital operating room and free of greasy finger prints as I go back together. Like @Dirttracker18 says "Sometimes its the little things."
I suffered with the same problem as @BubbaGee for thousands of miles before I finally got it cleared up.
BTW @BubbaGee that 'Bucking' under a load "slaps the heck" out of the plastic chain guides. I contend it is a major cause of their destruction. Try to avoid it until you can remove the misfires.
Good Luck
#19
Found Fix
To all those that helped.
I was able to stop the misfires by removing the connectors from the coils and cleaning them with electronic connector cleaner and reconnecting. I also cleaned and reapplied dielectric grease to the #2 coil. I plan to clean and reapply grease to all of the coils since #2 coil had little to no grease present when I removed it. I first need to get replacement bolts for the coils since half of them are so rusted I won't be able to reuse them.
Thank you so much for everyone's suggestions.
BubbaGee
I was able to stop the misfires by removing the connectors from the coils and cleaning them with electronic connector cleaner and reconnecting. I also cleaned and reapplied dielectric grease to the #2 coil. I plan to clean and reapply grease to all of the coils since #2 coil had little to no grease present when I removed it. I first need to get replacement bolts for the coils since half of them are so rusted I won't be able to reuse them.
Thank you so much for everyone's suggestions.
BubbaGee
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#20
Hello all. I have a 2007 Ford F150 SuperCrew with 5.4L V8 (with 126,000 miles) and been fighting an on going issue. I'm getting misfires on cylinder 2 and 4 after the engine warms up. When I check for diagnostic codes I'm seeing nothing, but when I read real time data I'm seeing misfires on 2 and 4. Doing a little testing, I noticed the misfire is more prevalent if running with O/D on than with it off. I don't get the misfires when the engine is cold either.
What has been done:
Plugs changed at 85,000 miles.
Fuel Pump Control module replaced around 90,000 miles.
Running semi-synthetic oil.
Tried different brands of gas.
Tried fuel additives.
Conditions that cause misfires:
Warm engine.
O/D is on.
Speed range of 40 to 60 mph (low RPMs)
Slowly pressing on accelerator, trying to increase speed.
Without any codes being thrown I'm at a loss of what should be looked at next.
BubbaGee
What has been done:
Plugs changed at 85,000 miles.
Fuel Pump Control module replaced around 90,000 miles.
Running semi-synthetic oil.
Tried different brands of gas.
Tried fuel additives.
Conditions that cause misfires:
Warm engine.
O/D is on.
Speed range of 40 to 60 mph (low RPMs)
Slowly pressing on accelerator, trying to increase speed.
Without any codes being thrown I'm at a loss of what should be looked at next.
BubbaGee