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Old May 24, 2015 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by kshields2
Doing my plugs and two of them the threads and jam nut came out but the rest of the plug if just moving side to side I tried pulling and breaking it to use the tool but can't seem to get it I'm thinking about getting some long needle nose. Should I be pulling it out or breaking it (to then use the lisle tool) and if i get long needle nose i won't be able to use them on one that's on the furthest back any help is appreciated
Use the tool because whats left has to be pulled out by the tool. Its too tight to use needle nose . Its like breaking a light bulb and the threaded part is still in there except in your case whats left is not threaded but just tight as heck. The reverse thread will grab it and the next step will "cork" it out. Some of mine came apart in a different way and I could needle nose them out with a good yank but not when the the threaded end and nut came out
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Old May 25, 2015 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Tommy J
Use the tool because whats left has to be pulled out by the tool. Its too tight to use needle nose . Its like breaking a light bulb and the threaded part is still in there except in your case whats left is not threaded but just tight as heck. The reverse thread will grab it and the next step will "cork" it out. Some of mine came apart in a different way and I could needle nose them out with a good yank but not when the the threaded end and nut came out
so Just use the lisle tool with the whole plug still In there ? Haven't worked on it in a couple days
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Old May 25, 2015 | 03:51 PM
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so Just use the lisle tool with the whole plug still In there ? Haven't worked on it in a couple days
I thought you pulled the threaded section and nut so when you say "whole plug" still in there Im confused. Whats left is the porcelin section and tip so yes, use the tool and if something does'nt seem right then don't. You can try needle nose but I don't think that will work. When I did mine, 5 broke. On three of them it sounds like what you got going, I pulled the threaded section out and some of the porcelin and tip were still in there. Thats what the tool was designed to pull out. Its going to push some of the porcelin through and break the cross section or at least bend it while reverse threading itself tight in to the tip. Its going to sound horrible like your breaking something. Then you're going to pull that tip out which is now threaded by the tool. Just follow the directions with the tool. Sometimes you can skip a step depending on whats left in the cylinder. On 2 of my broken 5 I was able to just pull out what was left with needle nose because they broke in a different way but I can't remember . I think I loosened them till I could'nt go any further and thought I saw the threaded section coming out and seperated but the plug would'nt come out so I grabbed them with the needle nose and had to yank it like a tooth and on those 2 what was left was just the tip with no porcelin in it so I went to step 2 which was to thread the tip with the tool and then step 3 to extract it so I skipped step 1 because what was left was a hollow tip with no porcelin to push out of the way. Hopefully Im not confusing you but once you have the tool and see the logic it will make sense to you. Go on you tube, there are a couple of good vids about it. Good luck. p.s. vacuum out the holes when your done to try to get any debris out. Use a small shop vac with garden hose or something taped to the end
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Old May 25, 2015 | 09:40 PM
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I thought you pulled the threaded section and nut so when you say "whole plug" still in there Im confused. Whats left is the porcelin section and tip so yes, use the tool and if something does'nt seem right then don't. You can try needle nose but I don't think that will work. When I did mine, 5 broke. On three of them it sounds like what you got going, I pulled the threaded section out and some of the porcelin and tip were still in there. Thats what the tool was designed to pull out. Its going to push some of the porcelin through and break the cross section or at least bend it while reverse threading itself tight in to the tip. Its going to sound horrible like your breaking something. Then you're going to pull that tip out which is now threaded by the tool. Just follow the directions with the tool. Sometimes you can skip a step depending on whats left in the cylinder. On 2 of my broken 5 I was able to just pull out what was left with needle nose because they broke in a different way but I can't remember . I think I loosened them till I could'nt go any further and thought I saw the threaded section coming out and seperated but the plug would'nt come out so I grabbed them with the needle nose and had to yank it like a tooth and on those 2 what was left was just the tip with no porcelin in it so I went to step 2 which was to thread the tip with the tool and then step 3 to extract it so I skipped step 1 because what was left was a hollow tip with no porcelin to push out of the way. Hopefully Im not confusing you but once you have the tool and see the logic it will make sense to you. Go on you tube, there are a couple of good vids about it. Good luck. p.s. vacuum out the holes when your done to try to get any debris out. Use a small shop vac with garden hose or something taped to the end
I used the lisle tool on three of them and they came out perfect the other two on the left furthest back the threads and jamb nut came off so they are not breaking to the point where I can use the tool
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Old May 25, 2015 | 09:43 PM
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I thought you pulled the threaded section and nut so when you say "whole plug" still in there Im confused. Whats left is the porcelin section and tip so yes, use the tool and if something does'nt seem right then don't. You can try needle nose but I don't think that will work. When I did mine, 5 broke. On three of them it sounds like what you got going, I pulled the threaded section out and some of the porcelin and tip were still in there. Thats what the tool was designed to pull out. Its going to push some of the porcelin through and break the cross section or at least bend it while reverse threading itself tight in to the tip. Its going to sound horrible like your breaking something. Then you're going to pull that tip out which is now threaded by the tool. Just follow the directions with the tool. Sometimes you can skip a step depending on whats left in the cylinder. On 2 of my broken 5 I was able to just pull out what was left with needle nose because they broke in a different way but I can't remember . I think I loosened them till I could'nt go any further and thought I saw the threaded section coming out and seperated but the plug would'nt come out so I grabbed them with the needle nose and had to yank it like a tooth and on those 2 what was left was just the tip with no porcelin in it so I went to step 2 which was to thread the tip with the tool and then step 3 to extract it so I skipped step 1 because what was left was a hollow tip with no porcelin to push out of the way. Hopefully Im not confusing you but once you have the tool and see the logic it will make sense to you. Go on you tube, there are a couple of good vids about it. Good luck. p.s. vacuum out the holes when your done to try to get any debris out. Use a small shop vac with garden hose or something taped to the end
and this is the part that comes out so the plug is just moving side to side and pliers won't fit and can't get a grip (and I'm starting with the second to last,don't know how I'm gonna get the last when I can't even get this one)
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Old May 26, 2015 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kshields2
and this is the part that comes out so the plug is just moving side to side and pliers won't fit and can't get a grip (and I'm starting with the second to last,don't know how I'm gonna get the last when I can't even get this one)
Ok, gotcha. My 2 that I used the pliers on I think came apart like that but mine were #5 and #6 so they were up front. First of all remove your computer and its bracket if you have'nt already. It will give you more room than you think. I literally climbed up on my engine bay area to get as close to those suckers as you can. Im almost positive you have to try and grab what you can with pliers or something. I know its a pain because the hole does'nt allow anything big in there and when you try to open the pliers it cant spread wide enough. It might even be better to use small pliers that can fit better in the hole. Buy some if you have to. You have to get a good grip on something and wiggle and pull. From what I remember I had to give it a good yank. I was nervous because I thought I was going to screw up somehow never doing these broken plugs before so I was'nt sure what I was supposed to be pulling out. Anyway, the bulk of it came out and what was left was just the small tip I was talking about earlier that you are going to use step 2 and 3 on. Im pretty sure I grabbed onto what looked like a pin and it will fight you but pull it and it will pop out. Try to look down the closer one #3 and see what you are trying to grab. It might help you get a perspective of what you're trying to do. Basically you are going to be seperating whats left from the tip. Good luck and let me know
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