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Old 11-15-2012, 01:17 AM
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wow thats intense :-0 72k miles a year if you do that kind of driving all year around give or take since you said about 1,500 miles a week. Where the hell do you drive to ? lol...that's a lot. I think the average here in california is 15k a year
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Originally Posted by darkstone4x4
wow thats intense :-0 72k miles a year if you do that kind of driving all year around give or take since you said about 1,500 miles a week. Where the hell do you drive to ? lol...that's a lot. I think the average here in california is 15k a year
The average nationwide is 15-25k.

I was averaging 70 miles one way not counting any detours or deliveries in between. Sometimes the round trip was made twice a day.

It was pretty close to 50k in a year counting days that i didn't make that trip and just drove around home doing errands and hanging out.
It would end up being 170 miles every day for a year.

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Originally Posted by Seth
The average nationwide is 15-25k.

I was averaging 70 miles one way not counting any detours or deliveries in between. Sometimes the round trip was made twice a day.

It was pretty close to 50k in a year counting days that i didn't make that trip and just drove around home doing errands and hanging out.
It would end up being 170 miles every day for a year.
Umm... the average nationwide is set right at 12,000 miles hence the 36 month or 36,000 miles warranty that comes with brand new vehicles?

Still man thats an incredible amount of miles to be driving. I do remember working on a truck where the guy has over 450,000 miles on a Chevrolet Silverado 2007...
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Originally Posted by BolletuH

Umm... the average nationwide is set right at 12,000 miles hence the 36 month or 36,000 miles warranty that comes with brand new vehicles?

Still man thats an incredible amount of miles to be driving. I do remember working on a truck where the guy has over 450,000 miles on a Chevrolet Silverado 2007...
That's the average yes. But not many people drive so few a year.

And I know it killed the resale value of my truck. It's every bit worth 15k but the miles kill it to only about 11k.
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So I'm going to bring this thread back up. I got the truck back a week ago and she is silent as can be! He said it was a huge pain and it took him awhile but he could do it faster next time. It's crazy how bad the tensioners were. I'm thinking I should do an oil change now even though its only got 1k miles since the last change. What do you guys think? Here are a couple pics.
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Nice!!

Those damn tensioners are the major cause. How did the new tensioner gasket look in relation to the old one? Better??

Were the roll pins holding the reluctor ring to the phaser bent, damaged or missing???

I would change the oil, and run 5w-30 full synthetic with a motorcraft filter.. I'm not a 5w-20 hater, but if that's what was in there when all those parts failed, then why not try something different?.. I personally think 5w-20 is a contributing factor in the failure of the 5.4 3v timing systems, among other "known" faults...
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If you don't mind me asking, about how much did the whole job run you? What all did you have him replace?
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Originally Posted by Especial86
Nice!!

Those damn tensioners are the major cause. How did the new tensioner gasket look in relation to the old one? Better??

Were the roll pins holding the reluctor ring to the phaser bent, damaged or missing???

I would change the oil, and run 5w-30 full synthetic with a motorcraft filter.. I'm not a 5w-20 hater, but if that's what was in there when all those parts failed, then why not try something different?.. I personally think 5w-20 is a contributing factor in the failure of the 5.4 3v timing systems, among other "known" faults...
The new tensioners looked 10x better of course. A white rubber gasket material. I got the cloyes timing kit. The phasers don't visibly seem that bad to my surprise because I expected to see that spring sprung an tilted to one side. When I bought the truck I think the damage was done but I immediately changed it to full synthetic valvoline with the motorcraft filter. Since its getting real cold now I think I will stick with 5-20 in the winter for the start up and switch to 5-30 in the summer. Or does that not help much? I also put in the updated vct solenoids a while back.
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Originally Posted by FStorm150
If you don't mind me asking, about how much did the whole job run you? What all did you have him replace?
I replaced the phasers, timing chains, tensioners,guides,arms, crank seal and timing cover and valve cover gaskets. I think all in all the parts were just a tad over $500 and the 16 hours labor was also $500. I replaced the solenoids earlier and I got them for $90 for both and the seals and did them myself.
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Originally Posted by lariat05.4

The new tensioners looked 10x better of course. A white rubber gasket material. I got the cloyes timing kit. The phasers don't visibly seem that bad to my surprise because I expected to see that spring sprung an tilted to one side. When I bought the truck I think the damage was done but I immediately changed it to full synthetic valvoline with the motorcraft filter. Since its getting real cold now I think I will stick with 5-20 in the winter for the start up and switch to 5-30 in the summer. Or does that not help much? I also put in the updated vct solenoids a while back.
Depending on your region, you may want to stick to 5w-20... If your in a climate that doesn't dip passed -10 degrees regularly, then I'd still swap to 5w-30. The 5w is the cold flow weight, so at a cold startup the 2 oils are identical. 5w-30 is only slightly more viscous when warm then 5w-20. This will offer better protection against wear in the event of an overheat, and in general...



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