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Old May 29, 2020 | 10:21 PM
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Hi all, sorry to introduce myself this way, but it you have a moment, and the knowledge, I would appreciate the advice. I did the timing chains on my 07 F150. Chains, phasers, tensioners, guides, all rockers and lifters. I buttoned it up last night, turned it over to prime it, and got no movement on the oil pressure switch gauge. Went for 8 seconds... Hmmm... Try again... 6 to 7 more, nothing. Crawled under and pulled off\replaced oil pressure sensor connector, tried again, for 10 more seconds. Nothing. Quit for the night to drink and ponder. I know I hooked up the oil pickup, whaled on those two bolts. I know I torqued down the new melling hv pump, all three bolts and swear it was flat on the block... I could see it was. Gave it an oil fill of 7 fresh quarts and filter... Gauge was working when I parked it for the repair, unlikely coincidence that it has failed this particular moment.... This morning, figured out maybe I am just too timid with the time of cranking... Gave it a 15 second run... Nothing. Folks, I am fresh outta ideas about what I have done wrong, but I must have done\not done\improperly done, something... Any ideas? When I bench primed the pump, could I have installed the backing plate wrong? Is there any way to mount the pump and not have the gear properly set on the crank? I dont know, but kind of depressed about all the work and money, and bad outcome. At this point, only thing I can think of is to tear it all down again . Thanks for your help,
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Old May 29, 2020 | 10:40 PM
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Take a deep breath Dave and just fire it up. Keep your ear tuned - and don't let it get to knocking for a whole minute ----- NO motor will build enough oil pressure to trigger the idiot switch at the RPM rate the starter can spin it. But the fast idle speed for a couple of seconds upon startup darned sure will. Even if it takes several seconds (10-15) before it self primes, will not destroy it.
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Old May 30, 2020 | 09:54 AM
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Start it and let it run till you hear knocking. If you do than shut it off cause there is a lack of oil pressure. I understand your concerns, I know the guy feeling people get when they see no oil pressure warning but you need to let it run to find out. Or get a pressure gauge and check it. Engine will have to be running to do that
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Old May 30, 2020 | 04:13 PM
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Did you prime the pump first? (I see you bench primed it, something I didn't do) Before installing the filter, did you get a 1/2" flexible tube, stick it into the inlet side of the oil filter (the off center hole), add a funnel to the tube and then pour oil into it? That's what I did, except I used a transmission fill tube that you attach to the quart and squeeze it in (As suggested by Cloyes installation video). It takes up to a minute of turning over for it to show oil pressure. NOTE: I had the crank position sensor disconnected while I did this (Same procedure as what FordTechMakuloco does)
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Old Jun 1, 2020 | 11:22 AM
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Thank you, to all who provided advice, helping me with my concern. On Sunday I went to my garage and taking the advice from a couple of people, pulled off the oil filter, filled it with oil, and connected the crank sensor. Priming the filter certainly doesn't hurt, and didn't take very long. Then I went ahead and started it.

I was so happy to see, after just a couple seconds, the gauge needle pop up to the center, showing oil pressure.

I had forgotten all about the automatic continuing engagement of the starter that is part of this truck. I don't know what would have happened if I had heard bad things after 10 or 15 seconds and tried to stop the starter from its attempt! Frantically attempting to disconnect a cable from the battery while listening to the engine make its suicidal noises, I suppose...

But, it ended pretty well. I listened to my now quietly purring engine, no longer ticking and tapping, and was quite happy. At least until the "check charging system" notice popped up and near as I can tell, after cleaning all the connections and grounds, is that my alternator has mysteriously decided to quit. So, Wednesday my new alternator should arrive and I will throw it in, and hopefully start driving my truck once more.

Again, thank you.
Dave
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Old Jun 2, 2020 | 08:42 AM
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Great to hear, but I hope you bought a MotorCraft alternator. Others are a crap shoot.
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Old Jun 2, 2020 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Daves 07 HDSC

my alternator has mysteriously decided to quit.

Dave
Purely anecdotal but rule of thumb is that the weakest link is the next to fail. Replacing other pumps/pulleys and the belts but not one (IE the alternator) can cause that last one to fail due to stresses/tension. Lets hope new alternator can solve it.
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