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Old 03-23-2018, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SCORGE
Yeah, it's very unlikely that they all go at once. It'd be easier to narrow if it was on one bank. But you're having multiple misses...on both. Have you ensured that everything electrical is connected, clean, etc.?
Just basically did a visual inspection of the coils that I was putting back on. all except for one were very clean and the one that wasn't had a little bit of corrosion on the end. That one with corrosion wasn't throwing any codes though. All 8 coils received new di-electric grease when I reinstalled them
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The plugs that came out are Champion double-platinum 7989 and thats what I bought to put back in. I know the Motocraft sp-515 are OEM but they have the issue of splitting which I didn't want to deal with and it looks like the last owner didn't either.
MC plugs are now SP-546. 515 were failing out of the box. Champions aren't too bad.
I wonder if there is something PCM related going on.
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Could the dielectric grease cause misfires if it comes in contact with a certain part of the coil? I seem to recall reading something about that recently. I could be wrong, I don't know much about the coils
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Could the dielectric grease cause misfires if it comes in contact with a certain part of the coil? I seem to recall reading something about that recently. I could be wrong, I don't know much about the coils
It can if you drown the end of the boot and plug in it. It's not conductive
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It can if you drown the end of the boot and plug in it. It's not conductive
hmm, Should I try cleaning it off then? I didn't put TONS but a healthy amount for sure
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hmm, Should I try cleaning it off then? I didn't put TONS but a healthy amount for sure
Still odd that I put the same amount on every COP and the ones that were throwing codes initially are still the only ones with issues
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They are very picky, little dirt on the plug ceramic, little dielectric grease between plug and spring, little moisture inside the boot, when doing the plugs, coils, and boots/springs it is very important to keep everything clean. Just the tiniest little thing can throw off the spark. If you used a good amount of grease on all of them I would pull all the boots and springs off. Clean them up very well and try to reapply. Personally I put a little grease inside the bottom of the boot and smear it around on the inside of the boot before I put the boot back on the spring then I even wipe the end of the spring clean before installing. I also clean the contact point between the spring and coil with electrical contact cleaner then put a little grease on the coil only where the boot makes contact.
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Originally Posted by BadFish523
They are very picky, little dirt on the plug ceramic, little dielectric grease between plug and spring, little moisture inside the boot, when doing the plugs, coils, and boots/springs it is very important to keep everything clean. Just the tiniest little thing can throw off the spark. If you used a good amount of grease on all of them I would pull all the boots and springs off. Clean them up very well and try to reapply. Personally I put a little grease inside the bottom of the boot and smear it around on the inside of the boot before I put the boot back on the spring then I even wipe the end of the spring clean before installing. I also clean the contact point between the spring and coil with electrical contact cleaner then put a little grease on the coil only where the boot makes contact.
That's definitely something for me to consider but you think its just a coincidence that the same 4 cylinders are giving misfires after the plug changes? you'd think something would've changed right? Thanks
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That's definitely something for me to consider but you think its just a coincidence that the same 4 cylinders are giving misfires after the plug changes? you'd think something would've changed right? Thanks
It is suspicious. Thats why I suggest cleaning all the boots and spring at minimal to no cost before you throw money at it.
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Originally Posted by BadFish523
It is suspicious. Thats why I suggest cleaning all the boots and spring at minimal to no cost before you throw money at it.
I'll definitely clean them up and see what comes up from that.


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