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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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Don't know where you'll find ethanol free gasoline...
Some smaller stations here advertise it on signs out front, some of them are handwritten and literally say "No Ethanol in our Gas."
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GATORB8
Some smaller stations here advertise it on signs out front, some of them are handwritten and literally say "No Ethanol in our Gas."
i thought bush made it law by a certain year all gas had to be 10% ethanol? i dont think i made that up
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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I read that the 10% ethanol is what causes deposits in the fuel system and it is better to run gas without it, that was for lawn mowers. I'm sure it would be the same for our trucks. Also, I read it is good to run E85 once in awhile (on equipped motors) to help clean the fuel system. Doesn't make sense but whatever.
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ford4wd08
i thought bush made it law by a certain year all gas had to be 10% ethanol? i dont think i made that up
I thought so too, then I started seeing the signs pop up.
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by GATORB8
I thought so too, then I started seeing the signs pop up.
E10 is a mandate that will need to be in effect over the next few years.
Originally Posted by redrider911
I read that the 10% ethanol is what causes deposits in the fuel system and it is better to run gas without it, that was for lawn mowers. I'm sure it would be the same for our trucks. Also, I read it is good to run E85 once in awhile (on equipped motors) to help clean the fuel system. Doesn't make sense but whatever.
It is a matter of 2 cycle vs 4 cycle. Lawn mowers are 2 cycle. Some motorcycles are as well. The effect of E15+ on non-flex fuel engines is unknown.
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 11:33 PM
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Wow, thanks CrashTech for the good info. Thanks for the links. Obviously I read very inaccurate info before. I've been reading up on your links and other sites and you got it right on the nose.

I keep reading confliting information about the wear and tear on the engine though. Some people say no difference between E10 and gas w/o ethanol and others say yes, more wear on engine components and still others say more wear on stuff like injectors (just like someone else said in this post somewhere).
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 07:09 AM
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Wow, thanks CrashTech for the good info. Thanks for the links. Obviously I read very inaccurate info before. I've been reading up on your links and other sites and you got it right on the nose.

I keep reading confliting information about the wear and tear on the engine though. Some people say no difference between E10 and gas w/o ethanol and others say yes, more wear on engine components and still others say more wear on stuff like injectors (just like someone else said in this post somewhere).
I am programmer by trade, but having worked in the oil industry, I have learned more about oil and gas than I ever wanted to know... it often makes me sad to hear people arguing and fighting over what is going on. Often times both sides couldn't be more wrong. But I digress.

Ethanol blending has been going on for a long time now. I am not sure about wear and tear, but I do know that it is expected that anything over E10 will not go well for 2 Cycle motors.

Ethanol is just a poor choice as an alternative fuel. Less energy dense, you end up polluting more because you have to burn more, you can't transport it in pipelines.... (so it has to go by truck or rail). It is just all kinds of fail.

More info on blending: http://canada.theoildrum.com/node/4308
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 07:55 AM
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AAA estimated the nationwide average price of regular at $2.75 this morning; diesel at $2.982; E85 at $2.182. E85 would have to retail at $2.06 to equal regular on a BTU basis.
Just an FYI.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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Thank you government for mandating something that makes no sense, just so we can grow more corn instead of other crops. I guess it helps the farmers.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 03:30 PM
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any validity to running e-85 on equipped motors every once and a while being good for the fuel system??? like a fuel injector cleaner i guess???
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