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Old 03-12-2019, 07:54 PM
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What do you do if you want to turn the engine past 5k?
Same as you do when you currently take it past 2500.
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Same as you do when you currently take it past 2500.

I guess my pump is always leaking. 1st, 2nd, and 3rd doesn't shift till above 3,500.
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The newer adjusters have bigger oil galleys.
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Freedom has 2 kits listed 1 is a budget kit for about $450 that I assume is junk, and the other is supposed to be all Ford OEM for just over $800
the price is your anwer the ford tech guy has a good video of a phaser failure after about 500 miles with after market parts

dont be that guy
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Originally Posted by Jojodapyro View Post
I recently read that the Ford plate will flex and begin to leak at 2500 RPM, the 360HV doesn't flex and leak till 5000.
yep melling has a video out on that. also at 5k the leakage is minimal but why do you need 5k
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Originally Posted by ceasefire49 View Post
yep melling has a video out on that. also at 5k the leakage is minimal but why do you need 5k
I like to go fast!
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Originally Posted by ceasefire49 View Post
the price is your anwer the ford tech guy has a good video of a phaser failure after about 500 miles with after market parts

dont be that guy

In my original post I state that the phasers, adjusters and followers will be OEM Ford. So that I won't be that guy. The real discussion is on the chains, guides, gaskets, ect. Just trying to get a good deal on quality parts is all.
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Originally Posted by Screwed05 View Post
In my original post I state that the phasers, adjusters and followers will be OEM Ford. So that I won't be that guy. The real discussion is on the chains, guides, gaskets, ect. Just trying to get a good deal on quality parts is all.
Seeing as how the tensioners and guides are THE most important piece of the puzzle (blown tensioners lead us all down this rabbit hole), those should definitely be Ford. If you think about how many revolutions those needle bearings in the followers go through in 150-200k miles... well those would only be Ford. The latest ones have a smaller, re-angled orifice to better oil the cam lobes that the originals lacked, not sure if that change made it to the aftermarket. As the uprgraded Ford parts are known 200k+ milers, with the aftermarket so-so, only you know how long you want your truck to last (or how many times to do the job). IIRC the biggest nut is paying for the phasers, the price differential on the rest is inconsequential. For gaskets, Mahle or FelPro should be fine. In fact, I have an unused Mahle gasket seal (with front seal) for you, PM me if you are interested.
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