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Old 03-23-2017, 11:38 PM
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Just wondering if anyone has seen something like this before. I have a 05 with the 5.4 triton and I know about the plugs breaking off and staying it the head but I had a different experience with my plugs today. I noticed the infamous 5.4 tick and thought it was just the cam phasers but yesterday I started to get a misfire on cylinder 6 and today I went to check it out and pulled the coil pack out and then noticed the plug was loose and not even hand tight in the cylinder. I just did the plugs 4K miles ago and coil packs 2k ago and both times a made sure the plugs where tight. Well I pulled plug 6 out today and the metal arch on the plug was gone and so was the electrode. So I stuck a small magnet on a stick in there and fished out the metal part that broke off. Then put a new plug in and everything back together and all is good. No more tick and no misfire so I assume the tick was from a not fully seated plug. But still confused on the metal arch on the plug breaking off and have never heard of this before. Anyone else seen something like this before?
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If not you were lucky , Are these the new SP515 's.
My thing is to always use a torque wrench to finish tightening and use 25-28 foot pounds . Plus clean that hole out with carb cleaner ,you can damage a new plug with all that carbon build up on tip area . The carbon can interfere with the heat range of the plug also . If you do it right you don't need anti seize.
Going by feel on these engines is a problem, use a torque wrench and a proper rubber sparkplug socket to not crack new plugs . We hear many loose plug stories on here , guys wasting a lot of time chasing problem, stressing cats with misfires . Those cats are very expensive .
That blowby on loose plugs damages boots, cops and threatens the threads on heads, dumping fuel on cats .
I'm not in favor of doing 100k on plugs nor wholesale changing of cops .Change plugs and boots around 60k no matter what they look like , they are a heavy wear item .
The 5.4 3v is like a thoroughbred if you don't treat her just right shes not going to run long .
You would think with two points holding tips it would be impossible to happen . I've changed 100's of old style plugs and never had the tip break off . My 05 at 172k runs great after extensive timing job .

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Yes they are the sp-515. I do know how to maintain my truck. I've got 309k on it right now and it still hasn't needed the timing looked at. I know all the problems with these motors I just wanted to know if anyone has seen something like this before.
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I know how to change the plugs I've done it many times before I just want to know if anyone had seen a broken plug like mine before.
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Originally Posted by 05xlt5.4
I know how to change the plugs I've done it many times before I just want to know if anyone had seen a broken plug like mine before.
I m sure you do, I posted the wrong link there is a big post on this old subject. It is even mentioned in the link I gave.

to answer your question, yes if you have black boots, you and many others will have this issue. If you have brown boots, as I did on my 08 5.4, you are good to go!

good luck with a common known issue.
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Originally Posted by 05xlt5.4
Yes they are the sp-515. I do know how to maintain my truck. I've got 309k on it right now and it still hasn't needed the timing looked at. I know all the problems with these motors I just wanted to know if anyone has seen something like this before.
309 k is impressive especially if you are 18 like your profile says . No I haven't ever viewed a broken plug like that . We just added how some plugs get broken, usually the ceramic .
There's lots of nice guys on here trying to be helpful . Be one of them one day and give back . I'm 72 and still learning everyday .
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Thanks for the help. I'm 22 I don't know why my profile says I'm 18. I've had this truck since I was 15 and it only had 100k when I got it from my dad and he owned it since new. So I have a service record from since it was new and I'm just surprised at how little this truck has needed.




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