User-One

Whaaat? The ecoboost 3.5 tows 11,300 lbs, the base v6 tows 5000lbs, another reason to drop the v8. Not to mention the 2015 should have a new 2.7L ecoboost according to wiki.

And its not a few that chose the v6 or v8, on average about 60%-70% of usa and cad f150 sales are v6's, not v8's.

The f150 is a tool meant for work. That's what it was designed to do. It's only recently that it has become high end with the trims like limited versions.

For me I don't want a ****ty out dated tool, therfore I'd go for the new and advance piece of tech that will benifit my buinsess. If you stubbornly want a v8 just for the sound of it you are in the grocery getter group of pick up truck buyers that just want the image.

Tradesman

Hope things work out for you brother, I know you're dealing with some serious s**t right now. I just got back from the dealer, which is why I had this piece of s**t loaner in the first place. They told me that my cam phasers are shot ($2,100) and that my coils are starting to go as well ($900). I'm going to do them both on my own. We're here to help brother, I'd hate to see you give up and end up in a Chevy. And if you decide to jump ship towards a Ram, you can find me on the Ram Forumz as well.

I never had a chance to drive the Ecoboost or the 6.2 Boss. I wish I did. I have to say that 5.0 Coyote has a fantastic factory snarl. I could only imagine what it would sound with a Borla. It's sound is truly different from our Triton motors.

Brother, an MKS would have been far better than this piece of s**t truck. The only thing is that I needed an actual truck for work. To go from a loaded F-150 FX4 or Ram 1500 Sport to an entry level XL is like having Candace Swanepoel as a mistress then getting dumped and having Sandra Bernhard as your wife. S**t brother, I want a divorce!

The 6R80 is an absolute gem of a gearbox. It puts my 545RFE to shame, and basically any gearbox on any truck that I've driven is absolute dogpiss compared to this. That being said, the 5.0 Coyote is a poor match as it has such little low end torque. And any upgrades that can be done to the 5.0 Coyote can be done to the 5.4 Triton as well, especially considering our motors have been around longer.

I agree brother. That's why I said I will stick to my trusted 5.4 Triton. Despite having f**ked up cam phasers, coils that are on their way to the junkyard and some other miscellaneous things there is no way I would dump either my Ford or my Ram for a new F-150. Now bring on the 6.7 PowerStroke!

Just in a reminder, I use my trucks for work and I'm sure many of you have heard this before. Now if I find this 5.0 Coyote underpowered compared to my F-150 or my Ram 1500, imagine how I would feel when I haul my 8,000lb tool trailer. No thanks.

Tradesman

No, this 5.0 Coyote is not truck friendly at all. On a Mustang, sure. But not on our trucks. Forget about 0-100km/h times, standing km times or any type of hype that you hear from automotive journalists. The best reviews are from truck owners like me who use trucks for work. And I can tell you that my near-stock 5.4 Triton already feels taxed when hauling my trailer up the mountain. I personally would not even attempt to do such a thing with a 5.0 Coyote.

I absolutely hated the steering on this truck. I can't say for sure if the tires and wheels were the cause or if high end models have better steering but it literally feels like an old Buick I had in the '90s. I did find that the gearbox was fantastic, I don't know what turned you off about the 6R80. The shifts were like velvet on my loaner. I never knew that the transmission temperature gauge is another dummy gauge. What a f**king joke. Damn, I got duped.


I don't know what Ford has in it's future of the F-150 but they need to work on the 5.0 Coyote 'cause it's practically gutless. Hell, my decade old 5.7 Hemi would slay this thing. I can't imagine what a new Hemi or the latest 5.7 iForce would do in comparison. And I'm not talking some stupid *** s**t like street racing, I'm talking about actual towing.

For me, I can go either way. I would prefer a naturally aspirated V8 if it is tuned for truck use, just like my 5.7 Hemi. But I'm not opposed to something like the Ecoboost where you have a biturbo V6 that s**t gobs of torque. For me, it's a matter of capability and dependability. While I can't comment on the dependability of the 5.0 Coyote, I can tell you it is not a capable motor for construction use.

User-One

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Some people on here said the 6 speed needs time to learn your driving style. The one I had wouldn't downshift smoothly, would up shift to sixth gear way too fast and have downshift immediately to fourth, felt rough though the shifts, etc. And I don't drive with a lead foot.

Oh yeah also the new f150's gas pedal is now rock solid and I disliked that double position turn indicater, a bit annoying.

And the cause for the steering feel is due to the electronic assist steering, rather then hydraulic.

Good to see someone who actually works in the trade giving a proper review on the 5.0 then some guy that hauls pillows around and whines about the antenna being too long.

Tolson37

I'll take my 5.0 FX4 w 3.55 gears. Only need it for fun and towing my boat and gear of about 5-6k lbs. I had a 5.4 and it was a dog comparatively speaking. The torque numbers are VERY close between the 5.4 and 5.0, but the horsepower is significantly higher on the 5.0 + I'm getting six gears to work with- no lugging around.

If you really want a WORK truck you should be getting an F250 or F350 w diesel engine and not messing around with an F150. Most all the REAL work trucks I've seen are F250's or higher.

I really love my 5.0 so far with about 10k miles on it.

One advantage of staying with the older models is you can keep your cash longer and just keep maintaining what you have.

User-One

The only 5.4's that are dogs are the ones that weren't maintained by their owners, those are the ones running 0-60 is 12 seconds. Mine quite quick off the line, and tows well.

Have you taken look at some of the prices on gas in Canada? Diesel is at $5 a gallon, and gas is at $5.30 a gallon. Who in their right minds gets a 3.5 ton 6.7 diesel f250 when its not needed. The idea in the states is that the f150 is for play and f250 and up is for work, yeah right.......

GrimaceTimus

Wow...my bad. I guess I misread the specs. I coulda sworn I read that the EcoBoost V6 only towed 5000 but that if you had a "tow package" (which was more than just a frame-mounted hitch) you could get it up to 7500-8000 pounds. I guess that must still be the base V6.

Have they worked the bugs outta the EcoBoost? After (erroneously) reading that they don't tow much and the class-action lawsuits over the "limping", etc. I totally stayed away from them. You say you "don't want a ****ty out dated tool" .......I am in the tech business. Typically at least the first couple of models of any "new and advanced piece of tech" are riddled with bugs and problems and rarely, if ever, live up to the hype.

Plus...I think of those that did jump on the EcoBoost bandwagon, did so because of the gas mileage. But from what I read, as usual, the numbers reported by the big blue oval are the numbers you can only get if you have big blue hair.

It sounds like nothing short of a miracle to get a 3.5L V6 (much less a 2.7L V6) to tow anything over 6-7 thousand pounds. I'll be curious to see the longevity of these EcoBoosts in real-world conditions.

Despite some of the problems I am having with my 'new to me' truck, I love my 5.4L 3V. Can't wait to save the money to put a set of Dynatech headers on it. I plan on having this truck for at least 7 or 8 years (knock on wood)...but I will definitely be going diesel when I am ready to sunset this F150.

Triggerfx4

Yeah stock ecoboost tows 11,300 I know that for sure.

Tradesman

Brother, the turn signal drove me insane and I'm sure I confused a lot of people with it. What a f**king piece of s**t design! No solid "click" when you want to activate it. I may as well have had a gnome in the back of the truck waving to which lane I want to change to. Who the hell came up with this crap in the first place? Idiots that don't know how to use a turn signal properly! That's who! Now where is that gnome at?

The 6R80 worked perfectly well with me, I was shocked to see that video where the trans would kick in and out really harsh. Like I said, the 6R80 on these new trucks, at least on my loaner, was as smooth as a freshly groomed fat chick.

The steering was **** poor. Why step backwards in time? These are new Fords, not old Buicks. The steering is indirect, inaccurate and effortless. I prefer something with some effort and feedback. Hell my 12 year old can steer this truck with one hand. Well, I don't really have a 12 year old but if I did, he'd be able to steer it with one hand.

A lot of brothers both on this forum and on the Ram Forumz ask me all sorts of questions about our '04-08 of F-150 and the '03-08 Ram 1500 in comparison. Now I can add this '13 XL 5.0 to the list of trucks I can add to that comparison.

By no means am I denying that the 5.0 Coyote is more powerful than the 5.4 3V Triton. I'm not going to go out and state 0-100km/h times or any that stupid *** s**t. But by real world experience by someone who uses work trucks daily on a 3/4 tonne level, the 5.0 Coyote is not better than the 5.4 3V Triton in towing or hauling heavy payloads. Remember that the truck I drove was 2WD, had basic amenities and was a regular cab with a long box. Both my F-150 and my Ram 1500 are both crew cabs (quad cab on the Ram 1500) short box and loaded with leather, etc. so they are much heavier. I can tell you from daily experience that if you're hauling an 8,000lb trailer up a mountain pass then you want to keep your RPMs as low as possible because if you're keeping it in high RPMs you will grenade your truck. If the powerband doesn't start until later in the RPM range, that is the wrong motor for the truck.

My next truck will be the SuperDuty with the 6.7 Scorpion. Two things are holding me back from making the purchase. First is money, obviously as the truck I had spec'd out costs about the same as my gross annual income, and second is the fact that Ford still hasn't built a proper exhaust brake like Cummins or even Duramax has.

As far as a real work truck, the payloads on both my trucks are at their limits and what I haul is pretty much the limit of both the trucks and the hitches that they're connected to. But they both get it done day in day out. My business operates 12-16 hours a day, 7 days a week. Both my trucks will see on average 40-200km of commute on a daily basis. What I spend on fuel in one week is what most people spend on a new cell phone. My trucks are more than capable for the work that I put them through and have generally be reliable for the years that I've owned them. The maintenance is killing me right now since all the work that I put them through causes components to wear out much faster, but that's just part of ownership. As a business owner, if I could get away with using a Ford Ranger then damn it I would. But in real life to keep operating costs lower I take what I can and make the most of out it. And I've been doing that with the F-150 and the Ram 1500 and they both have exceeded my expectations of work trucks and personal trucks. You are correct, that a truck with a higher GVWR would be better suited for the work that I do. But since I am able to do the work with these current half tonne trucks then I will stick to them until my business requires a one tonne.












If you had a great experience with your truck, that's great for you brother. I love the look of new FX4s, especially with that metallic red that they have. I never really liked the look of the '09+ until I met Grandpa's Grocery Getter at a local Vancouver F-150 Meet-N-Greet and he showed me all the cool things about his truck. But his is a loaded XTR.

Locally fuel here is $1.50/L for gas and $1.68/L for diesel, as of yesterday. While a diesel can offer better capabilities with towing, payload etc. the maintenance is also a issue as these newer DPF and SCR equipped diesels require constant maintenenace. Downtime costs my business money and these trucks aren't earning money for me if they're in the shop. Believe me, I have thought this over for a very long time.

I could definitely use a new SuperDuty, but you're right. Why would I buy a truck costs my gross annual income when I can just use the trucks that I already have? It makes perfect business sense. There is a difference between want and a difference between need. The determining factor is money.

My 5.4 3V Triton is no dog by any means, but nor is it a 5.7 Hemi. I maintain my trucks meticulously and only have them dealer serviced when it requires something that I can't do on my own. If my loaded F-150 can outhaul a newer stripped down F-150 then I'd stick to my trusted Triton.

Dynatech and Stainless Works are both fantastic headers. Gibson is crap, OBX is crap, all that eBay stuff is crap. I think Stainless Works had a special on their headers some time ago. Contact Chris and ask him if you can still get a deal on them.

scobar

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Holy ***** tradesman, reading your posts are like reading emails from our old HR manager...