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Old 08-25-2018, 11:49 AM
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Default Dielectric grease not recommended for any electrical contact point

It is an insulator not a conductive gel . Its purpose is to stop boot from heat seizing boot to porcelain . The other is to stop tracking and water from entering boot . A little is not going to hurt anything . Clean all cop connections with contact cleaner and clean any corrosion off high volts tab . Carbon in cyl tip area off plugs can break plug going in or out . use carb cleaner to get it to dissolve out of there like it was when it was new . Use rubber socket and start plugs by feel and fingers it should be easy to do if cleaned correctly . Anti seize is not recommended on plugs anymore, it can foul tip . It is highly conductive . Keep you hands clean ,porcelain clean use very little and only use nickel- its high temp . You can get it on amazon . Definitely no copper on alum heads . Torque 25 to 28 foot pounds. A little anti-seize on cop bolt okay in salt country these take a beating .
Any plug cop or injector should lock on replace if it doesn't or badly corroded . Usually soldering new one in is necessary .
Misfire raw data per cyl is recorded short of threshold in mode six of code reader . An android phone, 5$ torque pro app, a cheap amazon bluetooth reader , look under test results it will tell you raw counts needed to set cel and the raw number it has for each cyl . Its not perfect ,it uses crankshaft sensor to see boost each time that cyl comes up .
Old 08-25-2018, 11:56 AM
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Accel coils have a terrible rep . Colorful but trouble . Its like fishing lures catch more fishermen than fish . Fish don't buy lures . Cop quality needs to be first class ,30,000 volts is no joke , special silicon steel cores etc, windings must not break down one turn to turn short will kill them .
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Thanks so much for the great details redfish! I’ve never heard the anti seize and dielectric grease explanation that clear before...and it makes much more sense now. And I’ll probably end up getting rid of the 2 Accel cops that I used in a pinch.

So I will definitely be cleaning off the copper anti seize on the 2 plugs I replaced. If any copper residue remains beyond the threads in the chamber after cleaning can that cause an issue with the electrodes?
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Originally Posted by Ed Ritchie
Went with Motorcraft.After reading some others posts on this subject I really didn't need anymore issues or money spent switching back and forth from one manufacture to another. Truck runs better so far. This is my second plug change and happy to report all but 1 plug came out in one piece .
Bosch up grade upgrade.. Use the motorcraft cops there are some good deals on Ebay I have been using the champion 7989 plugs for 5 years now change them every 60K have had zero problem and they run fine contrary to popular belief. They have had no problems and I have had them on a machine at 50k.
I have 260K on engine now. Burns very little oil. Did the complete phaser,Timing,VCT,Lifters and oil pump (Melling same volume higher pressure) with new cam sensors and crank sensors 2 years ago. Engine has no noise and idols smooth as hell. Only use genuine ford parts for these builds. Tried to tell a friend about the pitfalls of using Dorman. Now after 3 Months he is doing the phasers again. I run mobile one 5 30 change with wix filters at 5 k. Yea I tried those accels wound up giving them away..Junk
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Originally Posted by ceasefire49
Bosch up grade upgrade.. Use the motorcraft cops there are some good deals on Ebay I have been using the champion 7989 plugs for 5 years now change them every 60K have had zero problem and they run fine contrary to popular belief. They have had no problems and I have had them on a machine at 50k.
I have 260K on engine now. Burns very little oil. Did the complete phaser,Timing,VCT,Lifters and oil pump (Melling same volume higher pressure) with new cam sensors and crank sensors 2 years ago. Engine has no noise and idols smooth as hell. Only use genuine ford parts for these builds. Tried to tell a friend about the pitfalls of using Dorman. Now after 3 Months he is doing the phasers again. I run mobile one 5 30 change with wix filters at 5 k. Yea I tried those accels wound up giving them away..Junk
good info ceasefire, I like it. Thanks for sharing 👍🏼
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Default A little residual anti seize is not going to hurt anything

Be more concerned about carbon around spark tip in cly , clean it out with carb cleaner . Carbon breaks plugs . I too use the 7989 plugs , they are the only double platinum plugs . I only run them 60k, been using them over ten years .
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