15w40 in the 5.4l, no more ticking?!
#21
Yea I don't know, maybe it's loud liftters, fuel injectors, cam phasers, I'm thinking about letting a dealership listen to it, truck runs great just annoying, I always get 5w20 and motorcraft filters... By the way it's an 08 with 43,000 miles... All I want is a quiet engine!!!! It's mainly loud on the passenger side...
#22
My engine made the "Normal Ford"(ticking) engine sounds from 60k then it finally failed at 120k. One of the cam phasers sheared a pin and spun on the camshaft I was told I could change the cam, phasers and timing chains. When they pulled it apart they told me there was too much metal in the engine. They pulled the oil pan and it had one valve keeper and bunch of metal filings. I was told at this point change the motor. I always changed the oil correctly, used the right oil and filter. The dealer said it was just a freak thing. From what I read about cam phaser noises, I don't think it's a freak problem.
#23
Senior Member
To me switching from 5w20 to 15w40 is way too much of a change for this engine. Also, if there's a problem with your engine, the cure will not likely come in a bottle. Be great if it did, but it probably won't. One other thing to consider is your exhaust manifold. Many on this forum have complained of a ticking noise due to exhaust gases leaking through the manifold gasket. Since you said it's on the passenger side, it's worth a look.
#25
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I'm due for an oil change now....I've been hearing the ticking since I've had the truck since early Jan 2014. Its not bad at low rpm's, but give it a lil gas and you hear it WAY over the exhaust.
Others have also said that a slight exhaust leak will cause the ticking as well. Not sure if I want to replace the exhaust and manifolds (dont want th truck louder). Want the ticking gone so I will be going with the 15w40 for the present oil change. Figured its worth a try at least once. Thought about even going with a Full Synthetic 5w30 before trying the 15w40 but I've always heard, "Once you go Full Synthetic, you cant go back to conventional oil."
So if the 15w40 doesnt stop the ticking, 5w30 Full Syn it is.....
Others have also said that a slight exhaust leak will cause the ticking as well. Not sure if I want to replace the exhaust and manifolds (dont want th truck louder). Want the ticking gone so I will be going with the 15w40 for the present oil change. Figured its worth a try at least once. Thought about even going with a Full Synthetic 5w30 before trying the 15w40 but I've always heard, "Once you go Full Synthetic, you cant go back to conventional oil."
So if the 15w40 doesnt stop the ticking, 5w30 Full Syn it is.....
#27
And what if it doesn't, try 20w-50?? 'Cuz surely if you use heavy enough oil it will fix the problem.
You need to pay attention to the folks above talking about the close tolerances of these engines. Yes, 15-40 oil may quiet some things, but it may also be too thick to get into other areas. People think because it makes more oil pressure and quiets some noises that it's a good thing, but if it's at the expense of other components it's not such a good thing.
More old wives tales, likely from the same people that think you shoudl be running 15w-40.
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#28
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I wouldn't go any thicker than 30w personally.
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#29
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Ok...rethinking this. ..what do you guys think about running the 10w30 as its Summer now and Cold Cranking is not of major concern? Just to see if the ticking goes away of course.
Also, took the truck to the local dealer and they stated, "We feel pretty confident that the issue you're having is due to a warped passenger side manifold...pretty common in the 50K to 65K range colder climate operation." Ever heard that 1 before? Then the Ford Mechanic suggest the 5w30 as a 1st option. If problem persists, replace manifold or purchase aftermarket headers...
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Also, took the truck to the local dealer and they stated, "We feel pretty confident that the issue you're having is due to a warped passenger side manifold...pretty common in the 50K to 65K range colder climate operation." Ever heard that 1 before? Then the Ford Mechanic suggest the 5w30 as a 1st option. If problem persists, replace manifold or purchase aftermarket headers...
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#30
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The tight tolerance argument is a giant bunch of BS talk.. Ford's recommendation to use 5w-20 is just what it says it is, its a RECOMMENDATION.. It is not a biblical prophecy, and it is also not the only oil on the planet that will lubricate and flow through these motors. To hear people still chanting this crap with a plethora of information literally at their fingertips is astounding... No wonder why we ended up with a 2 term Obama.. Seriously, people need to step back and think, and stop repeating what is fed to them...
.. If you want, you can jump up to 5w-30 for better wear protection and a smoother, quieter motor.. No you are ABSOLUTLEY not going to gall your cam lobes, wear out your top end, hinder flow or cause any more wear by stepping up the viscosity to a 5w-30. Go with a good synthetic and make sure you get the engine up to operating temp frequently for the best results.. Oil has come a long way from the old days, but it's base stocks are all still crushed from the same dinosaur. There's nothing wrong with 5w-20 either, it's just not the absolute best oil for these engines in every climate IMHO...
Couple your next oil change with a fresh set of the latest revision VCT solenoids if you don't already have them, and enjoy the silence and protection.
Stay away from 15w-40, there is no need to run such a heavy oil... Btw..back in the day, ford through oasis had a TSB to deal with the tick. They called for 10w-40, they since stopped recommending that TSB, but the engineers obviously knew that a 40 weight would still flow... They later decided to fix the problem with revised phasers, solenoids, and tensioners, instead of issuing a bandaid...
.. If you want, you can jump up to 5w-30 for better wear protection and a smoother, quieter motor.. No you are ABSOLUTLEY not going to gall your cam lobes, wear out your top end, hinder flow or cause any more wear by stepping up the viscosity to a 5w-30. Go with a good synthetic and make sure you get the engine up to operating temp frequently for the best results.. Oil has come a long way from the old days, but it's base stocks are all still crushed from the same dinosaur. There's nothing wrong with 5w-20 either, it's just not the absolute best oil for these engines in every climate IMHO...
Couple your next oil change with a fresh set of the latest revision VCT solenoids if you don't already have them, and enjoy the silence and protection.
Stay away from 15w-40, there is no need to run such a heavy oil... Btw..back in the day, ford through oasis had a TSB to deal with the tick. They called for 10w-40, they since stopped recommending that TSB, but the engineers obviously knew that a 40 weight would still flow... They later decided to fix the problem with revised phasers, solenoids, and tensioners, instead of issuing a bandaid...
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