RLXXI

Well when Ford finds a time machine to go forward and check out future improvements they can zip back and apply them to older vehicles.

BlackHD06

huh? the filter doesn't do any work. on the other hand the turbo mounted after the filter is working in conjunction with the large air pump attached to it to pull air in.


get creative w/ a hole saw and some 3" tubing and create what works best for you. factory has to compete w/ existing engine bay configuration, noise restrictions, epa, how easy it is to install on the assembly line and a number of other issues.

Enginner5

I haven't seen any factory set up that doesn't get dirty like that.

BucketMan

The filter filters, I consider that "work." I agree a clogged filter makes the turbo less efficient, which is why this particular set up can suck if you go off road or drive dirt roads often.

Im not about the Frankenstein my truck with a hole saw because of this. Just sharing an observation I made is all.

I had a 2000 F-150 I drove for 12 years. I beat the snot out of that poor truck, took it through some pretty horrible stuff. My air cleaner never looked like that.


Again my issue is the fact that I was not "off roading." I wasnt in some deep slop or forging through stream, this is literally a collective 10 miles or so of muddy/snow covered forest road that caused this.

RLXXI

All that matters is that it didn't get passed the filter, you have to realize hp, torque, as well as fuel economy depend on a large opening for air to get in to power the engine so they enlarge the intake flow to accommodate and that is a side effect.

You can't compare a system 15 years older to what you have now, that's like comparing black and white tv to high definition tv. To put it into terms you might grasp better, what did emergency responders do before the jaws of life were invented? They used crow bars or something?

BucketMan

Im pretty sure I grasp the concept, youre failing to hear the point of my post.

Air goes in, gets mixed with fuel, combustion happens, pistons are moved, work is performed.

Whether its a NA 15 y/o 4.6L V8 or my current powerplant.

In my opinion the location where the truck gets its air from is not good. After seeing this id rather it get it from the front of the truck.

Thats all im saying, lets not over complicate things.

RLXXI

I have to quote this guy because he nailed the explanation perfectly....


If you can do it better maybe you should be on Fords engineering team? Just saying.

BucketMan

I'd say full race did it pretty efficiently and easily.

And I've already fixed a Ford engineering mistake with the rear axle shudder, maybe I missed my calling?

gDMJoe

Installing some screening material over the end the snorkle will aid in reducing the muddy factor.
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RLXXI

LOL yeah maybe.

I found a problem with the all new F150 introduced in 1997, they had the wiring colors wrong for the front wheel speed sensors as well as the + and - wires being reversed in the shop manuals.

Greedy bastards gave me a $20 gift certificate to shop from their proprietary catalog of crap normally found in claw machines. I tossed it in the trash.