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Old 07-10-2015, 07:27 PM
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OK guys so a couple days ago I got around to taking the time to set up my hitch per the instructions. I had to make several adjustments to the hitch and the trailer L brackets to get the trucks wheelwell measurements in spec. The only thing is......It says in the instructions that the sway bars should be close to level with the tongue of the trailer and they aren't. They go up quite a bit from the hitch to the L brackets and with all the weight on the truck they are bowed pretty good. With this the sway bars are pretty much only making contact with the front of the L brackets. Their not resting flat like I'm thinking they should be.

I had to move the L brackets up some to take some of the sag off of my rear end. I only towed it a few miles back to storage so I couldn't really tell if it towed better or worse.

My truck does have a leveling kit on it, so is this making things different from the instructions? All the ones I see in the videos are pretty much level with the trailer tongue.
I have the E2 1,000/10,000 roundbar hitch

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Originally Posted by chaselee
OK guys so a couple days ago I got around to taking the time to set up my hitch per the instructions. I had to make several adjustments to the hitch and the trailer L brackets to get the trucks wheelwell measurements in spec. The only thing is......It says in the instructions that the sway bars should be close to level with the tongue of the trailer and they aren't. They go up quite a bit from the hitch to the L brackets and with all the weight on the truck they are bowed pretty good. With this the sway bars are pretty much only making contact with the front of the L brackets. Their not resting flat like I'm thinking they should be.

I had to move the L brackets up some to take some of the sag off of my rear end. I only towed it a few miles back to storage so I couldn't really tell if it towed better or worse.

My truck does have a leveling kit on it, so is this making things different from the instructions? All the ones I see in the videos are pretty much level with the trailer tongue.
I have the E2 1,000/10,000 roundbar hitch
I think the instructions assume that you have properly matched the trailer to your truck. IMO, that trailer is too much for your truck, and the WDH isn't going magically make it better. Because of this, i dont think youll get your measurements within spec. Just because your truck has enough power to pull it, doesn't mean it's well suited.

The most important numbers, when setting up a WDH, is the front axle measurements. What are the front axle numbers unhitched, hitched without WDH, and with WDH? Forget the squat on the rear end. Are you able to get the front end back down within a close distance to unhitched?
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here's my 2012 5.0 with 3;55's and pulling just at 8200# when full and that leaves just about 900# for me the wife and dogs! I get 11 MPG all day long till I hit the grapevine or go from Barstow to Bakersfield then it drops down in to the 9's going buy the lie-o-meter
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Originally Posted by MEZERR
I think the instructions assume that you have properly matched the trailer to your truck. IMO, that trailer is too much for your truck, and the WDH isn't going magically make it better. Because of this, i dont think youll get your measurements within spec. Just because your truck has enough power to pull it, doesn't mean it's well suited.

The most important numbers, when setting up a WDH, is the front axle measurements. What are the front axle numbers unhitched, hitched without WDH, and with WDH? Forget the squat on the rear end. Are you able to get the front end back down within a close distance to unhitched?
The front end only raised up .5". And how do you figure it's too much trailer. It only weighs 6400# with 785# tongue weight.
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Originally Posted by chaselee
OK guys so a couple days ago I got around to taking the time to set up my hitch per the instructions. I had to make several adjustments to the hitch and the trailer L brackets to get the trucks wheelwell measurements in spec. The only thing is......It says in the instructions that the sway bars should be close to level with the tongue of the trailer and they aren't. They go up quite a bit from the hitch to the L brackets and with all the weight on the truck they are bowed pretty good. With this the sway bars are pretty much only making contact with the front of the L brackets. Their not resting flat like I'm thinking they should be.

I had to move the L brackets up some to take some of the sag off of my rear end. I only towed it a few miles back to storage so I couldn't really tell if it towed better or worse.

My truck does have a leveling kit on it, so is this making things different from the instructions? All the ones I see in the videos are pretty much level with the trailer tongue.
I have the E2 1,000/10,000 roundbar hitch
So to correct the issue of un-level weight distribution bars, you must adjust the attitude or angle of the hitch head downward. This will lower the back-end/far-end of the weight distribution bars and create even contact with the L-brackets. It may take a couple of tries to get it to the sweet spot.

This is by far the most overlooked adjustment that I see on other peoples hitch setups.
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Originally Posted by chaselee
The front end only raised up .5". And how do you figure it's too much trailer. It only weighs 6400# with 785# tongue weight.
I'll bet $50 that your trailer doesn't weigh 6400 lbs. That might be the dry weight, which doesn't mean much. Put it on the scale.

Regardless, that first picture looks like the front end lifted more then .5".

My 19' surveyor hybrid, 192t, ultralight, weighs 4500 lbs empty on the scale. Dry weight says 3200.

Any who, if the measurement numbers work for you, then good stuff. It's a beauty trailer.
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Originally Posted by MEZERR
I'll bet $50 that your trailer doesn't weigh 6400 lbs. That might be the dry weight, which doesn't mean much. Put it on the scale.

Regardless, that first picture looks like the front end lifted more then .5".

My 19' surveyor hybrid, 192t, ultralight, weighs 4500 lbs empty on the scale. Dry weight says 3200.

Any who, if the measurement numbers work for you, then good stuff. It's a beauty trailer.
Your probably correct. That is the dry shipped weight. I haven't had it on the scale. The picture that you are talking about was the day I picked it up at the dealer and yes the front was more than .5" higher then, but after tweeking it further on Wednesday now it's .5" higher.
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What is your max payload on the door sticker?
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Originally Posted by Docboz
What is your max payload on the door sticker?
I'm not sure. I'll have to look when I get off in the morning
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Originally Posted by Merlyn
So to correct the issue of un-level weight distribution bars, you must adjust the attitude or angle of the hitch head downward. This will lower the back-end/far-end of the weight distribution bars and create even contact with the L-brackets. It may take a couple of tries to get it to the sweet spot.

This is by far the most overlooked adjustment that I see on other peoples hitch setups.
I'm thinking his bars are "bent" because of the amount of weight being transfered, and not just the head angled incorrectly. Usually, the primary purpose of angling the head with washers is to adjust the amount of weight being transferred, and not to level the bars. Any " unlevelling" of the bars will also lesson ( or tighten) the amount of weight being transferred to the front axle.

I personally wouldn't worry about level bars. As long as your measurements are within spec on the front axle is the most important thing.


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