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surplustravis 05-29-2014 07:19 PM

Are we alone ?? Ecoboost
 
It's bought a 2014 xlt ecoboost and love it do far just wondering if I am alone and the only guy that loves this engine . Are there more people that are happy with theirs than those bashing it. I'm hoping for a trouble free engine and I have heard issues out of the 5.0 also so it just a crap shoot sometimes. Let me know your thoughts

kdz300 05-29-2014 07:24 PM

Would not trade my tow beast.. Great engine, 33k trouble free miles.. Gas mileage... Not great but my turbo loving driving is to blame

lucky644 05-29-2014 07:27 PM

I've had zero issues with the engine, very powerful and decent MPG.

Azuri 05-29-2014 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by surplustravis (Post 3520080)
just wondering if I am alone


Yup you're alone, sorry. :whistling2:

:picard:

surplustravis 05-29-2014 07:31 PM

This stuff I hear about fuel in oil some people make it sound like its just dumping it in there or something. Just don't get it. Mine appears to have all the updated factory changes to it so I'm hoping for the best It's nice to hear from happy people rather than the others bashing it

PawPaw 05-29-2014 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by surplustravis (Post 3520080)
It's bought a 2014 xlt ecoboost and love it do far just wondering if I am alone and the only guy that loves this engine . Are there more people that are happy with theirs than those bashing it. I'm hoping for a trouble free engine and I have heard issues out of the 5.0 also so it just a crap shoot sometimes. Let me know your thoughts

I'm loving the low end torque compared to the 5.0 I had in my '11. Zero to 60 this thing haul's azz for a big heavy truck. I did have a minor problem with my 5.0 at 2K miles but had it corrected and no other problem's. My son in law also has a '13 Ecoboost Lariat and he loves it too. I only have 4K miles in 4 month's so far but it's been trouble free and I'm getting about 1.5 mpg's better then my 5.0 did.

torinalth 05-29-2014 07:35 PM

I've had one issue, but still will not trade it for anything. Love turbo setups and with tuning it is really enjoyable. I miss the V8 sound, but the power makes up for it so much.

surplustravis 05-29-2014 07:37 PM

Torin may I ask what your one issue was?

1994Vmax 05-29-2014 07:39 PM

I didn't buy either the 5.0 or the Eco and I love it. And no I don't have the 3.7 either lol. In comparison on this site I am alone... with the maybe dozen other active owners.

CCR90 05-29-2014 07:42 PM

I love my ecoboost. I came from an 03 with the 5.4L so I was quite skeptical at first ofa smaller displacement v6. Now you would have to give me an F250 diesel to get me to change. Recently had a loaner truck with the 5.0L in it and I was not as impressed with the performance of it.

The Cosworth 05-29-2014 07:43 PM

No issues, didnt like the tune I tried but that is personal and I know we have some terrible gas around here so it could be that. I was worried about my oil sample. Honestly though, most of the issues I am worried about are because of this place haha.

I wouldnt trade it. Same fuel economy as the 5.4 but I bought it for power not for fuel economy.

mkett39 05-29-2014 07:50 PM

Got my '14 screw with 6.5' bed ECO about seven weeks ago. Has 2200 miles and ok so far. traded my 2010 scab 4.6(which I really liked that motor)with 44,000.
this is my forth new style..'04 xlt screw 5.4, '07 lariat screw 5.4, '10 xlt scab 4.6 and now my '14 xlt screw ecoboost. I did lease this one so If problems occur it will be easy to offload.

torinalth 05-29-2014 07:55 PM

travis, my issue was the typical one of large amounts of fuel getting into the oil system. you can search for my thread if you want. they performed a TSB on it and all has been well since. Oh, but get an RX catch can system.... the amount of gunk I pull out of my can every 500 miles is astounding.

jeremyha 05-29-2014 07:57 PM

have 2011 XLT screw 4x4 with 3.5 eco and get 21 highway, and no problems at all, changed plugs at 30,000 and have 55,000 runs great.:)

1968dave 05-29-2014 08:09 PM

I hate mine!!!! Because I love it too much!!!!

lucky644 05-29-2014 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by torinalth (Post 3520192)
travis, my issue was the typical one of large amounts of fuel getting into the oil system. you can search for my thread if you want. they performed a TSB on it and all has been well since. Oh, but get an RX catch can system.... the amount of gunk I pull out of my can every 500 miles is astounding.

Does the fuel issue extend into the 2013's?

What does the catch can....catch? Never heard of one before.

Logan24 05-29-2014 08:33 PM

17 posts and this hasn't become a 5.0 vs EB pissing match yet? Must be a record!!!

I love my EB. I traded my 2010 with the 5.4 and don't miss the lack of power for a second. (Knock on wood) I've had nothing but great performance out of the motor! My ONLY complain is it's impossible to make the exhaust sound good. Which I can live with any day of the week. :)

bobo06 05-29-2014 08:35 PM

Went from my '98 scab with the 4.6 to my '13 screw with eco and 3.55 rear end . Couldn't be happier The 4.6 got 5.5mpg pulling my 7x14 tandem axle cargo trailer with 2 Harley's in it. The Eco gets 13.5 pulling the same trailer with tons of power to spare. The 4.6 got 16mpg combined city, hwy, while the eco gets 20.
No problems after about 15 months. Not my daily driver cause I don't want it getting beat up in the parking lot at work. I have the Saturn for that.

surplustravis 05-29-2014 08:38 PM

I see ups has a dual catch can setup that had quick connect factory style fittings will these cans void the warrenty. And what happens if a can fills up before you empty it ??? What tsb did they do to yours and can you explain it's effect on the problem. Hoping my 2014 has it updated alreadty

deerhunter42 05-29-2014 08:41 PM

Put 60,000 on my 2012 Ecoboost. No troubles and the lifetime gas mileage was right at 19 mpg. Traded on a 2013 set up the same way. 16,000 on it so far and no trouble. My 2013 does get only 17.5 lifetime average mpg but have not taken as many long trips with it.

Matt_RTR_FX4 05-29-2014 08:47 PM

OK, so I have a question about the 5.0 vs Ecoboost. I want to apologize upfront for my lack of technical knowledge (I am a CPA, so I just bought whatever made most financial sense at the time, which happens to be a 5.0). The 5.0 is a naturally aspirated engine. The 3.5 Eco is turbocharged. What IF you turbocharged/supercharged the 5.0? Wouldn't it be more of a fair comparison? Also, if the 5.0 was turbo/super charged, wouldn't it surpass the 3.5 in power? I don't understand the logic of comparing the two engines because one is given a huge advantage with turbos. It's like comparing an old- school diesel to the new turbo versions. That being said, I love my 5.0 and the thing screams. I came from a lexus is250, and this truck seems to have way more power and speed, and sounds damn good at that!

kdz300 05-29-2014 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by Matt_RTR_FX4 (Post 3520311)
OK, so I have a question about the 5.0 vs Ecoboost. I want to apologize upfront for my lack of technical knowledge (I am a CPA, so I just bought whatever made most financial sense at the time, which happens to be a 5.0). The 5.0 is a naturally aspirated engine. The 3.5 Eco is turbocharged. What IF you turbocharged/supercharged the 5.0? Wouldn't it be more of a fair comparison? Also, if the 5.0 was turbo/super charged, wouldn't it surpass the 3.5 in power? I don't understand the logic of comparing the two engines because one is given a huge advantage with turbos. It's like comparing an old- school diesel to the new turbo versions. That being said, I love my 5.0 and the thing screams. I came from a lexus is250, and this truck seems to have way more power and speed, and sounds damn good at that!

and if the Eco had 2 more cylinders..... ;-). I don't compare, I just love my eco

tamnalan 05-29-2014 08:55 PM

One difference is that the 3.5 motor was designed specifically to be turbocharged. The ecoboost torque and horsepower curves are very strong and useful too - most of the usable power is available by 2500 RPM.


The 5.0 was not designed this way.


Can a guy put a forced induction system on a 5.0? Sure! Will it be as reliable under boost as the 3.5? Who knows? Would Ford honor their warranty on a forced induction 5.0 if it fails? Heck no!

Matt_RTR_FX4 05-29-2014 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by kdz300 (Post 3520344)
and if the Eco had 2 more cylinders..... ;-). I don't compare, I just love my eco


Then you would have a v8!

I understand, I'm just asking. What IF a 5.0 was designed to be turbo'd? Just saying I don't get why some on this board want to argue which is better. Shouldn't we bashing the GM guys??

Matt_RTR_FX4 05-29-2014 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by kdz300 (Post 3520344)
and if the Eco had 2 more cylinders..... ;-). I don't compare, I just love my eco


Hell, make an Eco sound like a 5.0, and you have the perfect engine!

torinalth 05-29-2014 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by surplustravis (Post 3520282)
I see ups has a dual catch can setup that had quick connect factory style fittings will these cans void the warrenty. And what happens if a can fills up before you empty it ??? What tsb did they do to yours and can you explain it's effect on the problem. Hoping my 2014 has it updated alreadty

any modification has the potential to void a part of the warranty, but like all alterations it has to be proven to be the cause of the failure before there can be a voiding. Mostly it depends on the dealers and how mod friendly they are. mine seems to be very mod friendly so I don't even consider it a concern in the slightest. I would get the RX (Rev Xtreme system, sold at ecoboost power parts) system. currently it is being tested to be a very capable system in another thread in the engines subforum. if it is not emptied then it just lets the crap pass along as if the thing isnt there. I just get in the habit of emptying it every few weeks (or 500 miles)

I think the TSB was 14-0440 or close to it. replaced a bunch of gaskets, heater plug, and a few other items I can't remember. if it is already done on yous? possibly. but even those before 14 may or may not have the issue. But that really is not the purpose of the thread.


Originally Posted by Matt_RTR_FX4 (Post 3520311)
OK, so I have a question about the 5.0 vs Ecoboost. I want to apologize upfront for my lack of technical knowledge (I am a CPA, so I just bought whatever made most financial sense at the time, which happens to be a 5.0). The 5.0 is a naturally aspirated engine. The 3.5 Eco is turbocharged. What IF you turbocharged/supercharged the 5.0? Wouldn't it be more of a fair comparison? Also, if the 5.0 was turbo/super charged, wouldn't it surpass the 3.5 in power? I don't understand the logic of comparing the two engines because one is given a huge advantage with turbos. It's like comparing an old- school diesel to the new turbo versions. That being said, I love my 5.0 and the thing screams. I came from a lexus is250, and this truck seems to have way more power and speed, and sounds damn good at that!

If you supercharged or turbocharged the 5.0 it will make a lot more power than the ecoboost. This will also cost in the $5000+ range, and void the engine warranty. The issue is that you are now comparing aftermarket to OEM. in the majority of these cases OEM will lose to aftermarket. But there is no doubt, adding a supercharger will make the 5.0 decimate the ecoboost.

dave91gt 05-29-2014 11:10 PM

The key is Ford did a great thing with engine options. I have the 5.0 and wife has the eco but in an Explorer Sport. I went conventional with the truck and love my 5.0. Have 2 coworkers with Hemi's that have new respect for it as well-wink wink. The competition doesn't offer the same diversity in choices. No one has yet to answer the ECO challenge. Effortless power.

zx12-iowa 05-29-2014 11:14 PM

Eco owners overwhelmingly love it. Others try and justify their purchases a bit more but in reality they are all good engines just different attributes.

bscottie 05-29-2014 11:18 PM

Im digging my 2014

Wannafbody 05-29-2014 11:23 PM

I really like my EB so far. The one downside to the EB is the lighter payload capacity compared to the 5.0, for whatever screwy Ford reason. Even my 5.3 Silverado has more payload than my EB.

bluedsteel 05-30-2014 12:03 AM

I love my 2014 XLT EcoScrew! Runs great and has power to spare. So far I have no issues but I only have 4000 miles on it. GVWR is more than the 5.0 @ 7700lbs GVWR with max tow package

MadocHandyman 05-30-2014 06:25 AM

Had mine three years and 85000 km now. Still lovin' it! Great mileage and power on tap ;-)

srs77 05-30-2014 07:16 AM

Picking up my new EB today. Was delivered yesterday. Can't wait!

11lim 05-30-2014 09:16 AM

It's all in what you like. I have the 6.2L in my 11 Limited and love it. My best friend and live in has the EB in her 11 Lariat. She loves it! She has over 50K on it and never had a problem. It has no catch can or tuner. Completely stock. She doesn't get any better gas mileage than I do because she has a heavy foot. I say get whatever truck and engine you want. If it's a Ford, they are all good!

I just wish Ford would do something about the ****ty Stealer's!!!!!

itguy08 05-30-2014 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by surplustravis (Post 3520080)
It's bought a 2014 xlt ecoboost and love it do far just wondering if I am alone and the only guy that loves this engine . Are there more people that are happy with theirs than those bashing it. I'm hoping for a trouble free engine and I have heard issues out of the 5.0 also so it just a crap shoot sometimes. Let me know your thoughts

Love mine X2. :)

tamnalan 05-30-2014 09:25 AM

If you want throaty V8 sound, you will be disappointed.
If you want big V8 power, you will be very pleased! You get diesel engine brute power at pump gas prices.


I have about 20k miles on my '13 ecoboost with no tune and no catchcan. I have no plans to add either a tune or catchcan. It's fine for me as-is.

EcoBoostJake 05-30-2014 09:58 AM

I have had my 2011 XLT Screw for 5 months and put 7k miles on top of the 66k it had, without any problem yet. Absolutely love the truck, great towing power, good MPG, and very comfortable. We just took 6 adults on a 5 hour road trip while towing a small trailer getting about 18 mpg on the highway.


My only complaint would be when doing an oil change without lifting the front of the truck, it is nearly impossible to not spill oil on the garage floor. I would assume the 5.0 has this same issue, but I don't know that for sure.

SlimChaChi 05-30-2014 10:12 AM

only have it about 8k miles. it's a great engine, i've had no issues, but i've always had V8's and this particular engine, as great as it may be, is just not for me. Originally intended on ordering a Raptor, passed that up for the deal I got on my current FX4. After a few months and the constant regret of not getting a Raptor, I opted to trade her in...we did have some fun while it lasted...

sidenote - my gas mileage was never great, about 12.8 mpg, but I can't blame that on the engine...that's my heavy ass foot and primarily city driving!

Just 5 05-30-2014 10:26 AM

Love mine, no issues. Coming from a long line of V8's and non-Ford's ... well my non-Ford days are over.

meaz93 05-30-2014 11:16 AM

I got rid of my 04 Titan and have my 2014 XLT ECOBOOST 4X4 OFF ROAD PACKAGE....love love love this truck- NO Comparison! This F150 ROCKS!! No wonder the other truck companies are scrambling....cause they can't touch the twin turbo 24 valver!!
Say what you want...but, that motor is EPIC. The mileage is phenomenal and moves this truck like its nothing! I have the 3:73 gears and it will lope along in 6th all day....then I can lock out gears!
Stud of a truck!

lucky644 05-30-2014 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Wannafbody (Post 3520703)
I really like my EB so far. The one downside to the EB is the lighter payload capacity compared to the 5.0, for whatever screwy Ford reason. Even my 5.3 Silverado has more payload than my EB.

What's the payload difference? I know my gcvw is higher than any 5.0 they offer, and as far as I know I have max payload along with my Max towing packages...

meaz93 05-30-2014 12:15 PM

I'm not sure why your concerned?...load the bed up drop the trailer on her and see if she squats too much, then MAYBE, put a set of air bags on. I mean on my old Titan, ..I had overloaded the bed with gravel for landscaping...several times!...trashed the shocks, and springs...so I went with Firestone Air Bags....BEST INVESTMENT EVER!....I could drop.a house on the rearend with NO squat....just didn't have the power needed to pull up hills!

Wannafbody 05-30-2014 01:40 PM

09 Silverado at 1575# vs 13 F150 EB with 1401# payload. I'm assuming the Silverado is lighter.

I hauled a couple loads that I'm pretty sure were over the payload sticker amount. The EB seemed to do fine.

meaz93 05-30-2014 01:52 PM

My wife has an 09 Tahoe 4x4 with the 5.3....it absolutely did not like pulling my 8k trailer....pulling up Flagstaff and or coming down. Chevy makes a killer small block..BUT.....it can't compete with Ecoboost-period.

mrpositraction 05-30-2014 02:31 PM

I have had 3 F150 Ecoboost F150's, my next truck will be another Ecoboost :)


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