machy uno

I'm just curious where you got all this info. It seems a good deal is subjective and may or may not be fact. The first three make since, but the Flex can't handle impact? How do you know this? What is the weight the Flex can handle if it's 'less than 400lb'? (as a side note on that, the Fibermax is a more direct price comparison and it only handles 300lb). How do you know the aluminum sub-structure of the Bak is stronger, or that the Flex can't drive at freeway speeds? If the drain tubes of the Flex are 'smaller', what is there size? Etc, etc. Not saying these aren't true, I would just think that if they were, there should be some numbers to go with them. I guess I'm just playing devils advocate as I think I have already decided on the Bak, but for those that haven't a more numbers and less open-ended response may help. Also as stated above, the Fibermax would be a better comparison as it costs the same as the Flex. Would all these statements be true then as well?

FX4011

the backflip imho is the way to go installation was a breeze and have had nooooo problems i also have a bedbug liner and it is always dry after the rain.
it is also very durable i highly recommend the f1 bakflip gl with any choice u make

SteveVFX4

he is the owner/ceo of Bak, so I'm sure he knows his product very well since he designed it!

machy uno

Well that makes since that he would know his product. But not neccasarily the Undercover. Again, I'm kinda already sold on the F1 (I'd rather get the extra benifits of it over the Fibermax for the couple hundred dollars), but the responses seem open ended. If there's been testing to show these, I'd love to hear about it. The Flex website specifically states it can handle 400lb's evenly distributed, as does the Bak's website. The statement by jmaimin says the Bak can handle over 400lb's and the Undercover can handle less. Flex's website also says it can operate at normal speeds in the open position. I consider 70 mph normal speeds. Also, everything I've seen shows the F1 having only a 2 year warranty, not the stated 4 year warranty. Thats even in the 2011 Bakflip product catalog. If it's changed, then it has been done recently. I'm curious as to where these statements came from.

I'm also a product designer, and as a designer I try not to make open-ended statements comparing my product to a competitors. I will agree the Undercover Flex seems to be a knock-off. I will also contend that imitation is the best form of flattery. Bak makes a good enough product that other people want to make it as well. I look at it that compitition improves product. It seems Bak has come out with another product to compete, and they have lengthened the warranty. In the end, consumers are reaping the benefits.

Jimbo45

Here is a thread regarding my experience with the Fibermax. Make sure to read to page 7 though, since it looks like I going to get a replacement! Awesome!

https://www.f150forum.com/f38/does-y...e-mine-144256/

screw2012

I first purchased an Undercover Flex Tonneau Cover because in Canada it sells for $799 plus 13 % tax and the Bakflip F1 is $1199.00 plus 13% tax. They look exactly the same, but the Undercover Flex has some nicer features compared to the Bakflip F1.
The 1st Undercover Flex leaked like a sieve. I was advised it was a manufactures defect and got a second cover within a week. This cover also leaked but not as bad as the 1st. After two weeks I was given the opinion of purchased a Bakflip F1.
The store gave me a special price on the Bakflip F1 as I had so many problems with the Undercover Flex. I purchased the BakFlip F1 for $950.00 plus 13% tax, which has been the best price I could find anywhere in Canada. The Bakflip is a better built cover, but it leaks a little at the front and a spot over the wheel well. I would not recommend the Undercover Flex to anyone as the cover is true to its name and flexes with just a little bit of weight on it.
I would recommend the Bakflip F1 cover, but it is NOT WATERPROOF. Also as of 2013 the Ford OEM cover changes from the Bakflip HD to a Bakflip F1.

shortride

iTrader: (1)

I can't comment on other brands but the money spent on my 2 year old BakFlip F1 was money well spent.

Dreaux

Will the bakbox fit on the undercover flex?

Dreaux

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmaimin
Here are a few more differences to consider:

BAKFLIP FLEX

• BakFlip front panel automatically latches • Flex front panel does not latch
• BakFlip can open fully from either side • Flex cannot open front from passenger
• BakFlip does not block 3rd brake light • Flex does block 3rd brake light (illegal)
• BakFlip can handle impact from load shifts • Flex cannot handle impact
• BakFlip rails have install guides on top edge • Flex rails have no edge support
• Bakflip handles over 400 lbs • Flex rails can't handle same weight
• BakFlip Has aluminum substructure (stronger) • Flex has light-weight substructure
• BakFlip can drive open at freeway speeds • Flex cannot drive open at freeway speeds
• BakFlip - larger drain tubes (7/8 OD) • Flex - smaller drain tubes
• BakFlip takes up less space in truck bed • Flex takes up more space in bed
• BakFlip - OEM approved • Flex - Not OEM approved (not fmvss certified)
• BakFlip hs Injection molded handles • Flex has raw unfinished handles
• BakFlip has Emergency release • Flex has No emergency release
• BakFlip Works with BakBox toolbox • Flex has No toolbox option
• BakFlip works with CS rack system • Flex has No rack option
• BakFlip F1 4 year warranty Fibermax 3 year • Flex - 3 year warranty
• Bakflip has an original patented design • Flex is a Nock off - unproven over time.

Just read all of these and to my knowledge are mostly and completely false. I don't know what design changes undercover made, but it's almost identical now with the features you listed. I would be willing to bet the bakbox fits. Which unfortunately proves your last point. But really I don't care, if I can get an as good or better product for cheaper, the consumer wins. The patent system is a joke anyways.

Aaron Jors

Where did you hear that as of 2013 the Ford OEM cover changes from HD to F1? Just curious as I was considering the OEM cover or the F1.