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Old 09-26-2013, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SickStroke6.0

As much of an EcoBoost fan as I am, I agree. A supercharged 6.2L or 5.0L would have been a much better tribute to the Lightning.
It's not a lightning and it's not a svt. Dollar for dollar the ecoboost is a faster truck. Show me a bolt on 5.0 or 6.2 f150 in the 12s. The tremor should run mid to low 12s with a tune and bolt-ons. Add a race tune, meth, and intercooler and it will run 11s down the 1/4 mile with a good 60'.

Upgrade the turbos and fuel and 10s are a reality. The stock block is very stout on these motors. Sorry but a 5.0 or 6.2 would be a nice daily driver but is not a match for the current ecoboost.

This is posted by a lifelong v8 guy who has accepted the reality of technology. For the money, the potential performance of the 3.5 v6 can't be beat.

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Old 09-26-2013, 04:36 PM
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Honestly, I dont know why they wouldnt offer it in the 5.0l and 6.2l as well. Both are stout engines and readily available.
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Looks like the FX series. Which would make it a...FX1? FX0?
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the 6.2L naturally aspirated in that truck would be killer. I'd consider trading my 5.0 for it.
However for better or worse Ford is pushing the Ecoboost above all others. Probably for CAFE reasons.
Speaking of which, I'd be curious to know if this Ecoboost gets better window sticker mileage in this Regular Cab configuration versus the much heavier Super Cab configuration.
It's about a 500 pound difference in weight if you were wondering.
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Originally Posted by lariut
It's not a lightning and it's not a svt. Dollar for dollar the ecoboost is a faster truck. Show me a bolt on 5.0 or 6.2 f150 in the 12s. The tremor should run mid to low 12s with a tune and bolt-ons. Add a race tune, meth, and intercooler and it will run 11s down the 1/4 mile with a good 60'.

Upgrade the turbos and fuel and 10s are a reality. The stock block is very stout on these motors. Sorry but a 5.0 or 6.2 would be a nice daily driver but is not a match for the current ecoboost.

This is posted by a lifelong v8 guy who has accepted the reality of technology. For the money, the potential performance of the 3.5 v6 can't be beat.
75% of the people this tailors to will not buy it because it's a V6. There is no possible way to make it sound good with an exhaust system. Sure, you can make 375 HP with a tune and bolt ons, but most people aren't going to care once they hear it's a V6.

Forced induction V8 is going to be the only way to go with these trucks. 90% of the people who buy Ecoboosts now have no idea about the power potential, they just want the extra MPG the dealer told them it would get.

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Why are people so hung up on sound....who cares...if the truck goes fast I personally do not care what it sounds like doing it. I would rather hear the whine of a turbo as opposed to the sound of exhaust.
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Originally Posted by Kytann
Speaking of which, I'd be curious to know if this Ecoboost gets better window sticker mileage in this Regular Cab configuration versus the much heavier Super Cab configuration.
It's about a 500 pound difference in weight if you were wondering.
My guess is no because of the 4.10 gears.
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Originally Posted by SickStroke6.0
Forced induction V8 is going to be the only way to go with these trucks.
A FI V8 would really narrow the market for this truck. A FI V8 would add about $8-10K to the price tag.
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Originally Posted by lariut
It's not a lightning and it's not a svt. Dollar for dollar the ecoboost is a faster truck. Show me a bolt on 5.0 or 6.2 f150 in the 12s. The tremor should run mid to low 12s with a tune and bolt-ons. Add a race tune, meth, and intercooler and it will run 11s down the 1/4 mile with a good 60'.

Upgrade the turbos and fuel and 10s are a reality. The stock block is very stout on these motors. Sorry but a 5.0 or 6.2 would be a nice daily driver but is not a match for the current ecoboost.

This is posted by a lifelong v8 guy who has accepted the reality of technology. For the money, the potential performance of the 3.5 v6 can't be beat.
Dude, as someone who loves cars/ trucks and has their entire life. I've also driven many down a track, but at my stage of life (wife & two small boys) I have zero, repeat ZERO desires to drive down another drag strip ever again. I also don't care if one truck runs 9 sec and another 14.

It's what it feels like, and drives like 95% of the time I use it. I too am a huge fan of the 3.5 EcoBoost and Ford trucks in general, I have rented and test driven many new EcoBoost equipped trucks. While I liked it from a functional stand point, each one absolutely put me to sleep on the driving experience. It was as quiet as a Lexus each time I drove one.

Some guys like that, some guys don't. If I'm specifically buying the performance model of a truck I want to hear a nice throaty exhaust burble.

While I don't have any facts In front of me as they don't make a stock 5.0 or 6.2 V8 F-150 with the 4.10 axle ratio, but I would put money on it even the lowly 5.0 could hold the same configuration EcoBoost Tremor off through the 1/4 mile (since that is what so important to you)

There was a thread here, about the FX4 with the optional 4.10 & 3.5 EB (IIRC is the only way you can get 3.5 w/ 4.10's prior to MY 2014) was slower than an EB with 3.73 or 3.55 because the ratio is so short through 1st gear it doesn't allow the turbo 's to spool. I've never driven the combo so I can't speak on what the 3.5/4.10 combo feels like.

That said, 4.10's and the 5.0 would be perfectly matched, 6.2 even better (I bet it wouldn't even hook up through 1st & 2nd) lastly I don't see why you are so hung up with the turbo sound? I love forced induction too, I owned a heavily modified and tuned '05 Cummins diesel ram for a number of years, just sold my turbo 2013 Subaru WRX.

Call me crazy but I love the sound of my F-150 with a stock Raptor exhuast minus the resonator best. I don't have to be doing a 1/4 mile or going WOT, puts a huge smile just rumbling down the road. I'm also not adverse to going forward or changing technology. As soon as Tesla brings out their fully electric truck, I will be first in line I promise.
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Originally Posted by NASSTY
A FI V8 would really narrow the market for this truck. A FI V8 would add about $8-10K to the price tag.
It's a narrow market already. It's a RCSB V6. Putting an FI V8 would only widen the market, because it would be seen more as a Lightning. The Lightning wasn't cheap when it came out, yet it did pretty well.


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