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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 03:01 PM
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Though new to this site and haven't looked all that hard this topic might of already been discussed. with in the past month I have noticed my 2013 EB on start up has gotten louder (as in turbo spooling and higher rev) and after the 30-45 sec warm up there tends to be an oil smell, but not a normal oil, more of an oil/water mix smell. The motor is completely stock with no mods, 72k. Could someone help with this issue?

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If you've seen a ambient temperature drop overnight the cold startup open loop sequence may be more pronounced.

Ford had a TSB for reducing the amount of fuel supplied on cold startup. They also replace the PVC and reprogram the PCM. You may see symptoms though UOA and if your truck might be a candidate for the fix.

The smell could be PVC circulation leaking, or the cats burning off any residual from combustion/oil from leak down or sitting overnight. Has the wind direction changed with exhaust gas making its way toward the cab and into ventilation?

Every engine has slightly different tolerances. The first thirty seconds is a significant event, with varying metals going from ambient to several hundred degrees, rings expand, pistons expand.

I would just keep an eye on things. Oil level. And see if any other anecdotal items pop up and add to the mystery.

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Thank you for the reply. It is parked in the garage and started with the overhead door shut. I usually notice it more up front as I am getting into the truck more then toward the back. I have been checking the oil and the level seems to stay put. I will look into that TSB and check my dealership I take it too. Also it does it no matter if it is started remotely or with the key. I guess I am not so much worried about the higher spooling turbo noise, then I am with the actual oil smell, unless they are linked!
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I have the same situation as you. Parked in garage when started and left idle for 45 seconds I will occasionally a smell, I've attributed to exhaust.

The noise in the garage bounces off the walls and seems more pronounced compared to when outside.

Below is the TSB 14-0014. Getting a UOA performed would provide you with scientific data if you've got the problem and how bad. Ford's qualification is a worst case and rather gruff. If you have fuel in oil in the +3% range I would think one could easily negotiate to have it covered if warranty is still intact.

SERVICE PROCEDURE
  • 1. Is the vehicle equipped with a heater in the thermostat housing? Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 303-03.
  • 1. Yes - remove and discard the heater and cord. Refer to WSM, Section 303-03. Proceed to Step 2.
  • 2. No - proceed to Step 2.
  • 1. Remove the left hand (LH) Turbocharger. Refer to WSM, Section 303-04.
  • 1. Install the Block Heater Kit.
  • 1. Installation instructions are provided in the kit.
  • 1. Install the LH Turbocharger. Refer to WSM, Section 303-04.
  • 1. Change the engine oil and oil filter.
  • 1. Replace the Positive Crankcase Ventilation Valve (PCV) . Refer to WSM, Section 303-08.
  • 1. Determine the vehicle build date. Refer to WSM, Section 100-01.
  • 1. a. If the vehicle build date is on or before 10/24/2011, proceed to Step 7.
  • 2. b. If the vehicle build date is after 10/24/2011, proceed to Step 11.
  • 1. Remove and discard brake booster vacuum hose. (Figure 1)


Figure 1 - 14-0014

  1. 1. Install the new brake booster vacuum hose. (Figure 2)
  2. Figure 2 - 14-0014
  3. 1. Install the cap on the air intake. (Figure 2)
  4. 1. Reprogram the Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) Module to the latest calibration using IDS release 88.02A and higher. Calibration files may also be obtained at www.motorcraft.com.
  5. 1. Reprogram the powertrain control module (PCM) to the latest calibration using IDS release 88.02A and higher. Calibration files may also be obtained at www.motorcraft.com.
  6. 1. NOTE PLEASE ADVISE THE CUSTOMER THAT THIS VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH AN ADAPTIVE TRANSMISSION SHIFT STRATEGY WHICH ALLOWS THE VEHICLE'S COMPUTER TO LEARN THE TRANSMISSION'S UNIQUE PARAMETERS AND IMPROVE SHIFT QUALITY. WHEN THE ADAPTIVE STRATEGY IS RESET, THE COMPUTER WILL BEGIN A RE-LEARNING PROCESS. THIS RE-LEARNING PROCESS MAY RESULT IN FIRMER THAN NORMAL UPSHIFTS AND DOWNSHIFTS FOR SEVERAL DAYS.
  7. Print customer information sheet and provide to customer.
  8. 1. Advise the customer that the block heater should be plugged in at -15 °C (0 °F) or less to improve fuel-in-oil symptoms.
  9. PART NUMBER PART NAME DL3Z–6D008-A Block Heater W520514-S440 Exhaust Nut (4 Req) BL3Z-6N652-B Turbo Oil Line Gasket AA5Z-00815-C Oil Line O-Ring CL3Z-9450-B Gasket - Exhaust Man AA5Z-6A666-D PCV CL3Z-9C490-B Vacuum Hose W716372-S300 Vacuum Cap W715673-S900 Bolt - Turbocharger (3 Req) VC-3-B Motorcraft® Orange Antifreeze/Coolant Concentrated FL-500S Motorcraft® Oil Filter XO-5W30-QSP Motorcraft® SAE 5W-30 Premium Synthetic Blend Motor Oil

OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME 140014A 2011-2014 F-150 4X2, 2013-2014 F-150 4X4 3.5L GTDI: Install Block Heater And PCV Valve Includes Time To Remove And Install Left Bank Turbo Charger, Reprogram The PCM/ABS Modules And Replace The Brake Booster Brake Booster Vacuum Hose If Necessary (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations) 3.7 Hrs. 140014A 2011-2012 F-150 4X4 3.5L GTDI: Install Block Heater And PCV Valve Includes Time To Remove And Install Left Bank Turbo Charger, Reprogram The PCM/ABS Modules And Replace The Brake Booster Brake Booster Vacuum Hose If Necessary (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations) 3.8 Hrs. 140014B 2011-2014 F-150 4X2, 2013-2014 F-150 4X4 3.5L GTDI: Remove Existing Block Heater Per Procedure, Install Block Heater And PCV Valve Includes Time To Remove And Install Left Bank Turbo Charger, Reprogram The PCM/ABS Modules And Replace The Brake Booster Brake Booster Vacuum Hose If Necessary (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations) 3.9 Hrs. 140014B 2011-2012 F-150 4X4 3.5L GTDI: Remove Existing Block Heater Per Procedure, Install Block Heater And PCV Valve Includes Time To Remove And Install Left Bank Turbo Charger, Reprogram The PCM/ABS Modules And Replace The Brake Booster Brake Booster Vacuum Hose If Necessary (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations) 4.0 Hrs.

WARRANTY STATUS

Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage And Emissions Warranty Coverage.
Warranty/ESP coverage limits/policies/prior approvals are not altered by a TSB. Warranty/ESP coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part and verified using the OASIS part coverage tool.
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