Reliability of the 3.5L past 60k?
#11
The only thing that concerns me is the engine replacement cost on them. I know needing an entire new engine is rare, but my engine crapped out on me after owning it for 2 weeks. (used truck with 86,000 miles) Dealership replaced it under my extended warranty at no cost to me. And the repair was $7500 since the warranty company insisted on a Ford engine which cost a lot more than other companies that make remans for my truck. I have seen quotes on here for replacement of the 3.5's as high as $13000-14000.
No idea what the actual source of the problem was, but it was a 3.5L at 60k... So that didn't make me feel any better.
#12
Other than that, I am about to roll 60K this month and have had zero issues and hope to duplicate this experience:
Last edited by Joe F; 01-24-2018 at 11:42 AM.
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kiloEcho (01-24-2018)
#13
Here is a compilation of what the rattle sounded like on my 2013. Listen for that quick spurt of noise right after it starts. Anywhere from 1-3 seconds. The first one in the video is the worst. I got it fixed under warranty last year per TSB 16-0027 which covers it under the standard power train warranty for 5yr/60K mi.
https://youtu.be/1-4UdfQvuy4
Other than that, I am about to roll 60K this month and have had zero issues and hope to duplicate this experience:
https://youtu.be/b_CXoPdTBUE
https://youtu.be/1-4UdfQvuy4
Other than that, I am about to roll 60K this month and have had zero issues and hope to duplicate this experience:
https://youtu.be/b_CXoPdTBUE
#14
I finally went up there on a Saturday needing to "use my truck" for a bit. Rather than leave the key in the drop box as requested, I parked it on the lot and kept the key. I was there when they opened on Monday. I marched the Service Writer, the Service Manager and the Service Tech out to the parking lot and started it myself. It did a nice long burst just like the first one in the video. They ordered the parts that day.
Last edited by Joe F; 01-25-2018 at 02:37 PM.
#15
Just be careful. All that has to be done to mask the issue is to start the truck and then turn it off. On mine, once you did that, it would not reoccur again until at least the next day. In my case, I was suspicious. I left the truck with the dealer for a week and every day they'd tell me. "Started it this morning and again this afternoon. Not hearing a thing."
I finally went up there on a Saturday needing to "use my truck" for a bit. Rather than leave the key in the drop box as requested, I parked it on the lot and kept the key. I was there when they opened on Monday. I marched the Service Writer, the Service Manager and the Service Tech out to the parking lot and started it myself. It did a nice long burst just like the first one in the video. They ordered the parts that day.
I finally went up there on a Saturday needing to "use my truck" for a bit. Rather than leave the key in the drop box as requested, I parked it on the lot and kept the key. I was there when they opened on Monday. I marched the Service Writer, the Service Manager and the Service Tech out to the parking lot and started it myself. It did a nice long burst just like the first one in the video. They ordered the parts that day.
EDIT: What is the the rattle a symptom of? What would happen if it went unfixed?
Last edited by kiloEcho; 01-25-2018 at 02:45 PM.
#16
Find a truck that has had regular oil changes and you will be fine. Do a cold crank up and run at least mid grade gas if you plan to drive forever.
My 2011 had over 150,000 miles when traded in and my current 2015KR has 82,000 and both have been trouble free.
My 2011 had over 150,000 miles when traded in and my current 2015KR has 82,000 and both have been trouble free.
#17
Member
So I'm in the market for a new truck and have been eyeing the 3.5's around me. The thing is, there are a LOT of them on the used market, and they are all right at 60,000mi. I know a lot of people like the warm and fuzzy of a warranty so trading in at 60k isn't too crazy, but it still concerns me when I see this many up for sale. I've been searching to see if there are some problems or hidden gremlins that show up in these higher mile 3.5's but I can't find anything... Am I being paranoid? Are these trucks reliable or should I avoid the a 3.5 without a warranty? The truck I'm specifically looking at is a 2014 FX4, sitting at 59k.
#18
Senior Member
The only thing that concerns me is the engine replacement cost on them. I know needing an entire new engine is rare, but my engine crapped out on me after owning it for 2 weeks. (used truck with 86,000 miles) Dealership replaced it under my extended warranty at no cost to me. And the repair was $7500 since the warranty company insisted on a Ford engine which cost a lot more than other companies that make remans for my truck. I have seen quotes on here for replacement of the 3.5's as high as $13000-14000.
I see used engine and tranny combo's selling for $3-4k around here.
#19
Super Duper Senior Member
My 5.4l engine was $7500 installed. I could buy a reman for $3000-3500.
#20
Senior Member
Long block is 26 hrs flat rate to remove and replace = $2800 @ $110 per hour. There will be fluids and shop fee on top of it and likely some parts. Same as swapping any other engine. Flat rate labor to change a 5.0 is only an hour less.
Someone is getting ripped off or paying crazy high rates if it's gonna cost $7k to swap an engine.
Someone is getting ripped off or paying crazy high rates if it's gonna cost $7k to swap an engine.