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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ji603
very true. I have 118000 on factory brakes and pads
Do you not tow?? Live on flat land??

Damn, every F150 here from this generation has the shimmies. Up and down hills and traffic.

I consider myself to be easy on my brakes but the life style here ruins it.
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by masitile
I replaced the factory rotors at 15,000 miles with Napa premium rotors and pads.
At 42,000 miles now and they are still shimmy free. Worth the few bucks all day long.
Aside from increasing performance or handling characteristics. Ford's rotors are probably one of the few things that I'd rather have aftermarket, than OEM.
Agreed. When I first did my brakes I was more focused on paying off my truck in 2 years. Figured I could get away with having the shop do a second turn and it worked. 54,000 on the rotors and they just started shimmying. The pads could go another 50 but ..... oh well
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 11:15 AM
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I always buy the best grade of rotors and pads from either Centric or Raybestos and I never get any vibration or noise issues. Clean the hub face really well and lube everything properly with good grease during the install.
What do you use to clean the hub face?? More like where did you get the wire wheel and which one??
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 01:19 PM
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Meathead - Driving style has a lot to do with brake life.
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That and, properly bedding when installing new replacements.
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by diegoo.jayjay
Agreed. When I first did my brakes I was more focused on paying off my truck in 2 years. Figured I could get away with having the shop do a second turn and it worked. 54,000 on the rotors and they just started shimmying. The pads could go another 50 but ..... oh well
So, you turned them twice in 54k? That seems like a lot to me, hence aftermarket. I turned front rotors at 30k and got new pads installed for $40 at Ford, partly paid by warranty. Then replaced everything at 70k or so myself since they were starting to make noise and pulse/grind when emergency stopping.

Also, on that earlier point, I've never seen a mechanic (dealer or independent) bill that only listed $15 for turning. More like double that at least per wheel. I guess internet stories of prices can't be taken too seriously, and that's what you aren't liking. But, I'm a lot happier with my install for its value than any brake job I've ever had before. $350 total, high-quality solid rotors were $63 rear, $67 front, the rest was the pads.

Kinda wondering why I never bothered doing my own brakes before. Oh, that's right, I dislike working on cars.
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 03:01 PM
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So, you turned them twice in 54k? That seems like a lot to me, hence aftermarket. I turned front rotors at 30k and got new pads installed for $40 at Ford, partly paid by warranty. Then replaced everything at 70k or so myself since they were starting to make noise and pulse/grind when emergency stopping.

Also, on that earlier point, I've never seen a mechanic (dealer or independent) bill that only listed $15 for turning. More like double that at least per wheel. I guess internet stories of prices can't be taken too seriously, and that's what you aren't liking. But, I'm a lot happier with my install for its value than any brake job I've ever had before. $350 total, high-quality solid rotors were $63 rear, $67 front, the rest was the pads.

Kinda wondering why I never bothered doing my own brakes before. Oh, that's right, I dislike working on cars.
No, the guy thought it would be better to turn them twice. Basically, do a second pass over.

I've only ever done the brakes once on this truck. That was at 36,000. Thursday will be the second time, but it will be getting new rotors and pads up front. Now the truck has 90,000 miles.

And no, if you don't believe me that the shop only charges $15 per rotor, doesn't bother me one bit.
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by diegoo.jayjay
What do you use to clean the hub face?? More like where did you get the wire wheel and which one??
I have two metal brushes I use to get the worst of it off. A 1.5" square one for outside of the lugs, and a smaller toothbrush sized one for inside the lugs. I then hit the portion of the hub that sticks through the rotor with a scotchbrite.

Then I go after it with a razor blade and WD40. You can feel any high spots and scrape them flat with the razor. The WD flushes away what is scraped off and allows the razor to slide easily so you can feel the high spots.

They do sell a special wire brush that goes over the lugs to get the area inside of the lugs, but I've never tried it.

I'll generally put a very thin coat of grease or antiseize on the hub to protect it from future corrosion before I put on the new rotor.
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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 09:38 AM
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In the morning I back out of my driveway and have been getting that morning squeal. Never happens again throughout the day.
I'm getting close to 42,000 miles. I never needed to do rear pads before 50,000 on any vehicle.

I did however, just put new tires and of course he put the one and only rim that has some slight curb rash from my beloved wife.
Anyhow, I switched it over to the passenger side and saw my rear pads are well over 3/4 gone.

This isn't really a rant...just seemed a little abnormal.
Not a big deal, I'll put new pads in this weekend in my driveway, in an hour.

I just was a little surprised. I expected them to be no more than half gone, like all my previous vehicles. Especially the way I've babied this 2014.
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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by masitile
In the morning I back out of my driveway and have been getting that morning squeal. Never happens again throughout the day.
I'm getting close to 42,000 miles. I never needed to do rear pads before 50,000 on any vehicle.

I did however, just put new tires and of course he put the one and only rim that has some slight curb rash from my beloved wife.
Anyhow, I switched it over to the passenger side and saw my rear pads are well over 3/4 gone.

This isn't really a rant...just seemed a little abnormal.
Not a big deal, I'll put new pads in this weekend in my driveway, in an hour.

I just was a little surprised. I expected them to be no more than half gone, like all my previous vehicles. Especially the way I've babied this 2014.
A lot of it depends on where/how you're driving. I got 77K miles out of my factory rear pads; I just started getting the "change meeeee!" squeal two weeks ago and replaced them last week. I do almost no driving in town, so I spend very little time in stop and go traffic, which adds to the pad life (or, I suppose, doesn't subtract as much from it).

If you're driving in more slippery conditions (rain, snow, ice, loose dirt, etc), AdvanceTrac will also be contributing more to rear pad wear as it's activelt using the rear brakes for yaw and traction control. I think I've mentioned before how some Lincoln LS owners were actually seeing the rear pads wearing more than the fronts because of AdvanceTrac. My LS with AdvanceTrac actually wore the front and rear brake pads fairly evenly, but I'm sure part of that is due to the suspension geometry (anti-dive front, anti-lift rear) and weight balance (52/48 F/R).
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Old Nov 4, 2017 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by masitile
In the morning I back out of my driveway and have been getting that morning squeal. Never happens again throughout the day.
I'm getting close to 42,000 miles. I never needed to do rear pads before 50,000 on any vehicle.

I did however, just put new tires and of course he put the one and only rim that has some slight curb rash from my beloved wife.
Anyhow, I switched it over to the passenger side and saw my rear pads are well over 3/4 gone.

This isn't really a rant...just seemed a little abnormal.
Not a big deal, I'll put new pads in this weekend in my driveway, in an hour.

I just was a little surprised. I expected them to be no more than half gone, like all my previous vehicles. Especially the way I've babied this 2014.
Hey that was my pad too. So I decided to flush my brake fluid. Well, from my passenger rear caliper the fluid was GREEN! Only that caliper too. The rest if then looked like regular fluid that waas 4 years old with near 100,000 miles. I've never seen that and after flushing the system it feels waaaaaay better.
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