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Old 02-17-2013, 11:55 AM
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I hope I am buying more truck than I need. Very good plan. As far as MPG I think we are all stuck with "it is what it is". My 460 rv gets 6.5 towing the boat and sometimes as high as 8 without it. About 200 bucks in gas before I fill up the boat.
If I get 10mpg towing with the truck I will be ahead, I think?
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Originally Posted by stevie44
I am buying a new 2013 F150. I am retiring and typical use will be to tow the 4300lb dry/6000 loaded TT to the ocean. We will stay a few weeks at a time so it will then be used as putt around transportation and towing a 5000 lb boat on flat ground to and from the launch. (up to 10 miles max) depending on launch. There may be the occasional tow of different boats up to about 8000 pounds on rare occasions but still on flat ground.

The truck I am looking to order is an XLT crew cab, 5.0 v8, 6.5 box and 3.73 differential. 302a equipment group, XLT convenience pkg.
I think the payload is 2200 before I added the packages. Anybody know what it actually ends up being? The tow rating is 9100? I think this set up would be fine....

Is this overkill? Am I over thinking this?
Yes, you're overthinking this a little, But, relax, its what we all do when getting ready to pull the trigger on a big purchase. I have the same set-up (2011 SCREW, 5.0L, 3.73 gear, 6.5' bed, 9100 lb tow capacity) and tow a 32' Flagstaff at 7,000 lb dry. The truck does great towing this beast, even in the mountains of western NC. You'll have enough truck to safely tow what you're proposing, with a realtively easy on the wallet vehicle to run around in.

Good choice, IMHO.
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Originally Posted by sgtpatiolantern
I always believe in buying a little more truck than you need just for the safety factor alone. This philosophy has served me well. Easier on the truck and driver. When I got my commercial driver's license we were taught that when buying our own equipment it is proven that an overly capable vehicle is less prone to breakdown and easier on the operator. i believe that in my heart to be true. Nothing more stressful than wondering; "Is this thing going to make it?"
Excellent point! Why buy just what you need!
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Although the 5.0 sounds a LOT happier at high rpm's than the old 5.4 did....please consider that the EB will tow 9,000 pounds uphill at 2,900 rpm (right at its torque peak), while the 5.0 torque peak is at 4,300 rpm.......when/if you need that torque peak while towing, those are the rpm's you will be using.
I could only do about 250 miles in a day towing with my 5.4 before the aural assault just wore me out. 400 miles towing with the EB is relaxing, quiet and effortless compared to having to use high rpm's. JMHO....and now, something else for you to consider....has anyone suggested hooking up what you are going to tow, fully loaded, for a test drive with each engine? I know you'll be impressed with the EB.
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I know i have said this before, but my whole life was about the V-8, the sound, the power, the looks, what would'nt you like about it, but I made sure to look at all possibilities for what I might need. The last thing I wanted to say was, god I wish I would have gotten something more. I drove them all, watched the videos and after everything, decided on the Eco Boost with Max Tow. I just couldnt believe how that engine performs. Probably paid more than I should of, but its been worth it to me.Like Phil says, Happy,Happy,Happy.
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[...has anyone suggested hooking up what you are going to tow, fully loaded, for a test drive with each engine? I know you'll be impressed with the EB.[/QUOTE]

Brilliant idea!
But where would they set it up? The Grapevive? Vantage? You gotta have a location with some grade and distance fairly close to population centers. Snoqualmie pass from Issaquah to the summit might be too long but it has turnouts and it is just minutes from Seattle. There is a Ford dealer just a few miles from the start of the grade.
I think some of us would pay a few bucks to try towing or even ride along with different loads and different trucks/engines up and down some hills. Charge enough to weed out non buyers and give people a refund if they buy a Ford after the demo.
They could use a handful of flatbed trailers with barrels of water to adjust total weight and tongue weight.
Something Ford could look into. Maybe the mother of all advertising stunts. Interview the drivers afterwards and put that on film.
They could also attract present owners who are willing to spend a few bucks and some time just to see the latest innovations.

As far as taking your trailer to a dealer and asking to tow it with some of their new trucks I think they will decline. New trucks are supposed to get 500 miles on them before towing.

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the 5.0 has more than you are gonna need. The EB will also do the job quite well but that will be a little excessive for what you need. Choose which engine you prefer to drive daily (sound, power delivery, and driving characteristics)
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If you haven't included the HD Payload package, you might consider that. That gets you the tranny cooler and larger radiator like the max tow in the ecoboost package, but you can keep the 5.0. You'll have a 8200 GVWR so you'll likely end up with over 2000lbs payload. If you build it online and select the 3.73 axle with limited slip, you automatically get that package.
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I have an '11 ecoboost, SCREW 4X4, 3.55 and 6.5 bed. I pull a 20 foot searay runabout around western Washington and Oregon and have no issues. It scares me how well it pulls hills. I have pulled heavier loads for work, probably close to 10 or 11K and it pulls it just fine power wise. Withe the heavier load, I was wishing for a heavier suspension.

As for the 55-60 shuddering problem. It is now non existent. I have the updated CAC and been running it for 5K miles in a climate where it rains or precipitates on a damn daily basis. I travel for work, put about 2K miles on my truck a month between work and pleasure and do not have any complaints about the ECO. There are other things I would complain about, but they are mostly annoyances.

I have not driven the 5.0. I went with the ECO purely because I liked the way it drives. It pulls like a diesel engine, using lower RPM. Between Vancouver and Seattle I routinely get 21+ per gallon. Around town I average 16 if I don't let if idle allot.

I do not think you will regret either engine choice.

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Originally Posted by Ford850
If you haven't included the HD Payload package, you might consider that. That gets you the tranny cooler and larger radiator like the max tow in the ecoboost package, but you can keep the 5.0. You'll have a 8200 GVWR so you'll likely end up with over 2000lbs payload. If you build it online and select the 3.73 axle with limited slip, you automatically get that package.
Sort of wondered that since the payload said 2330. Now all I gotta do is figure out if I get the telescoping mirrors. I selected the 3.73 electronic lock.


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