leveling shocks and springs
#1
leveling shocks and springs
2010 Screw Lariet, is my truck. I have the Hell Bent Steel 2 inch leveler installed. I was thinking about changing them out to left coils and new shocks. Hopeing it will benefit the ride a little. I had did the same this with a spacer lift on old tacoma when when I changed to Old Man Emu lift coils and struts the ride was smoother. I have looked at OME website and Bilstien's but am not finding what I'm looking for. I have also searched her under lift coils, lift springs. etc. No luck. I want to look into how to level the front in with better parts instead of the spacer to see it it rides smoother. I hit a bump now and the front feels really tight with the spacers. Any help???
#2
I believe the Hellbent level kit a strut spacer not a spring spacer? If it's a strut spacer then I think your ride should stay exactly the same as stock. Spring spacers increase the coil preload which in turn result in a stiffer (worse) ride.
Could be your stock shocks are blown? In that case you can just buy any upgraded shock assy. from anyone of the zillion manufacturers, including bilstein, out there.
Could be your stock shocks are blown? In that case you can just buy any upgraded shock assy. from anyone of the zillion manufacturers, including bilstein, out there.
#3
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I believe the Hellbent level kit a strut spacer not a spring spacer? If it's a strut spacer then I think your ride should stay exactly the same as stock. Spring spacers increase the coil preload which in turn result in a stiffer (worse) ride.
Could be your stock shocks are blown? In that case you can just buy any upgraded shock assy. from anyone of the zillion manufacturers, including bilstein, out there.
Could be your stock shocks are blown? In that case you can just buy any upgraded shock assy. from anyone of the zillion manufacturers, including bilstein, out there.
That is a common misconception on springs spacers. COIL SPRING SPACERS AND STRUT SPACERS decrease travel, increase preload, make your rider stiffer. They are also bad for balljoints. They are not a performance mod by any means, you are making it worse. STAY AWAY FROM SPACERS
READ THIS. http://www.camburg.com/toyota/00-06-...y-spacer-lift/
Then buy Bilstein 5100 Ride Height Adjustable shocks. They cost the same and are actually a performance enhancer. They REUSE your stock springs and have an adjustable spring seat that allows for 4 different height settings.
The shocks are also valved for offroad and performance driving.
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#4
Guys first I'd like to apologized for the horrible grammar on my OP. I just read over it again and hate pretext and auto correct. Thank you for the advice. I will look into these very soon.
#5
Bilsteins do nothing for the ball joint angles. The angles will get worse if you raise your truck with anything. The strut spacers do nothing to make the stock shocks ride worse. They mount ontop of the whole strut assembly. The stiffer ride results in the different tire you choose, or your shocks were junk already.
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#8
Well guys I know ball joint angles are changed, they have to change a little. I switched to total chaos uca's on the Tacoma to help with alignment issues. I also have the stock scorpions on 20's and only 7,000 miles. So I hope my shocks aren't blown yet. You have to change the ride in some way, shape or form. Yes your not tightening the coils but your losing travel up or down at least. Spacers are just the cheap way to lift. I've lifted both way in the past and the right shocks, lift coils and even changing uca's will always ride better than any spacer lift.
#9
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Bilsteins do nothing for the ball joint angles. The angles will get worse if you raise your truck with anything. The strut spacers do nothing to make the stock shocks ride worse. They mount ontop of the whole strut assembly. The stiffer ride results in the different tire you choose, or your shocks were junk already.
You are mistaken. I do not see how adding preload to the spring and decreasing the travel amount on the stock shock will not affect the ride. You also need to account for the fact that by installing a spacer, you are lowering where the valve sits in the shock, and your shocks will bottom long before the bumpstops hit the control arm, potentially damaging your shocks.
With spacers, you are ramming a shock designed for a certain amount of travel in to a 2" shorter space. Its bad for the shock, and the ride. Spacers are not worth it, 5100's are the same price and actually are a performance upgrade.
#10
I get what he is trying to get at. My old spacer set inside the strut compressing the shock. Making the coils compressed, thus making the ride allot stiffer. The HBS spacers mount on top of the assembly NOT compressing the coils. The only thing I see is a higher UCA angle and losing some drop, if I'm thinking right. So my ride is fine till I hit a pot hole, speed bump etc. Thats when it hits hard. But on the flip side if I use 5100's I would think if you set them for 2 inch lift that would be compressing the coils to gain that lift?.???? Or how does it make the lift.