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Joeyz85 10-05-2015 09:07 PM

Installed fuctioning remote start in 15 min! Unbelievable
 
Well I ordered a "plug and play" remote start off amazon and wow I'm impressed. It uses my factory key fobs and took 15 min start to finish to install. No trip to pay the dealer to activate. You press lock three times and it's starts. I was amazed at how simple its was and would recommend this as a alternative to the 100 series oem set up . I paid $106 minus a $50 gift card I had. So $56 and 15 min of my time.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NBCT0FK/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1444092990&sr=8-2&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=2013+f150+remote+start&dp Pl=1&dpID=51TE-qV-KsL&ref=plSrch

Tylerl66 10-05-2015 09:23 PM

Did you use a key with out the start button?

Blackpony 10-05-2015 09:37 PM

I have the same kit on my truck. It works great except the range on my remote sucks!! Unless I'm within 50 ft it won't do ****.

RES4CUE 10-05-2015 09:38 PM

Sounds awesome!

shawnbrown1386 10-05-2015 09:40 PM

Im super interested but the link isnt clickable

Joeyz85 10-05-2015 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by Tylerl66 (Post 4359461)
Did you use a key with out the start button?

Yup just the three button . All you do is hit lock 3x

Joeyz85 10-05-2015 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by shawnbrown1386 (Post 4359487)
Im super interested but the link isnt clickable

Just copy and paste it

Joeyz85 10-05-2015 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by Blackpony (Post 4359480)
I have the same kit on my truck. It works great except the range on my remote sucks!! Unless I'm within 50 ft it won't do ****.

I've had good luck with my factory fobs. I do change the batteries twice a year though.

Tuxedo14XLT 10-05-2015 10:32 PM

Reviews are really good for this kit. Just curious does the heater/ac start like oem when it is cold/hot outside?

Sweatmachine 10-05-2015 10:36 PM

Very cool! Will this work with my standard/manual climate controls? I guess whatever I left on will come on.

Tuxedo14XLT 10-05-2015 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by Sweatmachine (Post 4359581)
Very cool! Will this work with my standard/manual climate controls? I guess whatever I left on will come on.

According to the 2014 owners manual, "A manual climate control system will run at the setting it was set to when you switch the vehicle off." Mine are manual so you would need to leave the setting to how you want it to heat/cool I'd assume if there isn't a difference in the year model.

ivan927 10-05-2015 11:13 PM

Just purchased. Will update with results!

116Rob 10-06-2015 08:13 AM

Subscribing.

Joeyz85 10-06-2015 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by ivan927 (Post 4359617)
Just purchased. Will update with results!

You'll be pleased with it. Don't read the directions just watch the 7 min video on YouTube and follow that .

Ricktwuhk 10-06-2015 10:14 AM

Interesting how it says "Factory OEM) yet in fact it's made by Fortin. If you read the listing, it's a Fortin Remote Starter than activates from the OEM remote. Nice play on words. Also notes it will not work with Push-to-Start feature.

For those copy and paste challenged... Plug and Play Remote Start

RogueGT 10-06-2015 11:43 AM

The main difference I can see is with the Ford system 100 series you get the start function built right into the key (2011 and up). No need to hang an extra fob (2010 and prior) off your key ring. The other issue you might encounter (my gf's mom did) it wasn't a Ford system so the dealer told her she had to go to an outside shop to get to looked at when it malfunctioned...every 6 months!! LOL

Joeyz85 10-06-2015 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by RogueGT (Post 4360128)
The main difference I can see is with the Ford system 100 series you get the start function built right into the key (2011 and up). No need to hang an extra fob (2010 and prior) off your key ring. The other issue you might encounter (my gf's mom did) it wasn't a Ford system so the dealer told her she had to go to an outside shop to get to looked at when it malfunctioned...every 6 months!! LOL

It uses my factory fobs there is no secondary fob. You just press lock 3x .

EcoBoostJake 10-06-2015 01:45 PM

I just purchased it as well. It sounds too good to be true at half the cost of the OEM starter that still needs new keys cut and programed from Ford. Ill provide an update once I get it and do the installation.


I hope I didn't just toss $100 out the window.

TNrover 10-06-2015 03:59 PM

OOS now on Amazon

Nateking 10-06-2015 11:18 PM

Any one know we're to get one of these shipped to Canada?

soaringfalcon 10-06-2015 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by Nateking (Post 4361124)
Any one know we're to get one of these shipped to Canada?

Fortin is a Canadian company, you should be able to find someone local (in Canada) to get it from.

check their website. https://fortin.ca/

Blackpony 10-07-2015 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by EcoBoostJake (Post 4360280)
I just purchased it as well. It sounds too good to be true at half the cost of the OEM starter that still needs new keys cut and programed from Ford. Ill provide an update once I get it and do the installation.


I hope I didn't just toss $100 out the window.

Mine works great, except for the poor range which is common with these trucks. I've had mine for about 3 months now with no ill effects.

45pro 10-07-2015 09:00 PM

Will it work if you only have 1 key and 1 fob? I havnt got a 2nd set yet and can't find a remote start system that will work with only 1 key

Blackpony 10-07-2015 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by 45pro (Post 4362287)
Will it work if you only have 1 key and 1 fob? I havnt got a 2nd set yet and can't find a remote start system that will work with only 1 key

My understanding of the system is it basically ties into the start system and once it detects the lock function being activated 3 times it will start the vehicle. I can't see why this system won't work on any vehicle with a keyless entry system. The one the op listed is just specific to these particular f150's. The kit I bough was off eBay, it had a pigtail that was plug and play for my truck, but the module itself was just the universal one and i had to cut off a bunch of wires that were not needed and extend a couple wires to reach the bcm. The one the op listed appears to be a direct plug and play with the correct length and wire already cut that are not needed.

soaringfalcon 10-07-2015 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by 45pro (Post 4362287)
Will it work if you only have 1 key and 1 fob? I havnt got a 2nd set yet and can't find a remote start system that will work with only 1 key

The system comes with a PATS interface that is required to be learned by the truck for the remote start to be able to start the truck. You need two functioning PATS keys to get it programmed.

All Remote start systems, factory or aftermarket will require two keys.

If you have a 2011 to 2014, your best cost effective option is to purchase a Ford 100 series and then have the dealer install it, cut the two new keys that come with it and program them. You are looking at about $200 for the Series 100 and 1 hour of labor at the dealer.

Nateking 10-08-2015 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Blackpony (Post 4362321)
My understanding of the system is it basically ties into the start system and once it detects the lock function being activated 3 times it will start the vehicle. I can't see why this system won't work on any vehicle with a keyless entry system. The one the op listed is just specific to these particular f150's. The kit I bough was off eBay, it had a pigtail that was plug and play for my truck, but the module itself was just the universal one and i had to cut off a bunch of wires that were not needed and extend a couple wires to reach the bcm. The one the op listed appears to be a direct plug and play with the correct length and wire already cut that are not needed.

Could you post a link to the eBay item? I'm interested in it and couldn't seem to find it

ivan927 10-09-2015 10:19 PM

It arrived today and I will be installing tomorrow morning!

Brandon L Thompson 10-09-2015 11:44 PM

Is there anywhere else it can be purchased. Tried to order it off of amazon last night but it saying no longer available.

soaringfalcon 10-10-2015 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Brandon L Thompson (Post 4365277)
Is there anywhere else it can be purchased. Tried to order it off of amazon last night but it saying no longer available.

Check on here: https://fortin.ca/en/distributors/

Or use their Contact Us link to see if they have any online sellers.

Ricktwuhk 10-10-2015 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Brandon L Thompson (Post 4365277)
Is there anywhere else it can be purchased. Tried to order it off of amazon last night but it saying no longer available.

It's there now.

ivan927 10-10-2015 11:52 AM

This is the best damn $100 I ever spent! Easy install and overall took less than an hour, and a good portion of that time was spent trying to find a screw I dropped...
Now I'm just sitting here to make sure the auto off function works. Attachment 397208

Tylerl66 10-10-2015 02:29 PM

Mine shipped today should be here and on my truck by Wednesday!
The link provided does say no longer available, but a quick search of Amazon and it led me to the exact same product.


Can any body who installed there's remember anything That you would do differently?

Blackpony 10-10-2015 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by Nateking (Post 4362902)
Could you post a link to the eBay item? I'm interested in it and couldn't seem to find it

This is the one I bought.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361266731030?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageNa me=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

ivan927 10-10-2015 07:35 PM

So I think I just found the one downside to this amazing gadget... If you have the key pad on your door and lock that way 3 times, this also starts your truck. Not that big of a deal, but still just thought people would like to know.

Yen phi 10-11-2015 07:47 PM

question: the truck shut off when u get in? and u have to restart again?

Prkuehn 10-11-2015 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by ivan927 (Post 4366151)
So I think I just found the one downside to this amazing gadget... If you have the key pad on your door and lock that way 3 times, this also starts your truck. Not that big of a deal, but still just thought people would like to know.

Why would anyone lock the door three times from the keypad? At least they should certainly know that it is running.

ivan927 10-11-2015 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Yen phi
question: the truck shut off when u get in? and u have to restart again?

No you just put the key in and go.

Soldier5047 10-12-2015 09:40 AM

My brother has a remote start on his truck and it has two features that haven't been mentioned here yet. 1) automatic shutoff if not driven within a couple minutes 2) if you remote start, unlock, climb in and tap the brake without the key in the "on" position, the truck will shut off. I was wondering if this kit had these options?

Also, with you guys who have bought and are using it? What yr model trucks do y'all have? I have a 2009 and was wondering if anyone had tried it on this yr yet.

Joeyz85 10-12-2015 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Soldier5047 (Post 4367927)
My brother has a remote start on his truck and it has two features that haven't been mentioned here yet. 1) automatic shutoff if not driven within a couple minutes 2) if you remote start, unlock, climb in and tap the brake without the key in the "on" position, the truck will shut off. I was wondering if this kit had these options?

Also, with you guys who have bought and are using it? What yr model trucks do y'all have? I have a 2009 and was wondering if anyone had tried it on this yr yet.

Yup it will turn off after about 15 min and if you hit the brake it also shuts off. If you press lock 3x after starting it shuts off as well

RES4CUE 10-12-2015 12:57 PM

Can you pull up to a place and keep it running and take key with you?

My viper, I just hit remote start and it allows me to take keys out and truck stays running. This way I can run in gas station, etc and lock truck but keep it warming up.

Al Czervik Construct 10-12-2015 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by ivan927 (Post 4359617)
Just purchased. Will update with results!

Just ordered one as well. Seems like a great deal!

soaringfalcon 10-12-2015 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by RES4CUE (Post 4368129)
Can you pull up to a place and keep it running and take key with you?

My viper, I just hit remote start and it allows me to take keys out and truck stays running. This way I can run in gas station, etc and lock truck but keep it warming up.

From the information on their website, it does not look like it.

Turfguy 10-12-2015 05:04 PM

Guys, a vendor on here (Rogel Ford) also sells the factory remote start with a very good perimeter alarm for $225 it does come with a seperate key fob but your reception distance is increased dramatically. I got the perimeter alarm from him for $125 and it is all plug and play. You can go to his thread to see a video of it. The alarm is great as it will go off if someone hits your truck or tries to break in, unlike most factory alarms! Got mine in one day.

Joeyz85 10-12-2015 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by Turfguy (Post 4368446)
Guys, a vendor on here (Rogel Ford) also sells the factory remote start with a very good perimeter alarm for $225 it does come with a seperate key fob but your reception distance is increased dramatically. I got the perimeter alarm from him for $125 and it is all plug and play. You can go to his thread to see a video of it. The alarm is great as it will go off if someone hits your truck or tries to break in, unlike most factory alarms! Got mine in one day.

Isn't it 225 plus the dealer charges to activate?

gjboor89 10-12-2015 06:23 PM

I have the 100 series with the separate fob. Is there away to install this with out having to uninstall the 100 series? I hate having two fobs.

Turfguy 10-12-2015 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Joeyz85 (Post 4368568)
Isn't it 225 plus the dealer charges to activate?

That may be ,I know that for my truck I would not need the dealer since I already have remote start (their system is much better then the stock remote start. Like I said he is a vendor on here and a good company to deal with. If nothing else it's worth looking into the thread!

soaringfalcon 10-12-2015 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by gjboor89 (Post 4368588)
I have the 100 series with the separate fob. Is there away to install this with out having to uninstall the 100 series? I hate having two fobs.

what year is your truck?

gjboor89 10-12-2015 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by soaringfalcon (Post 4368678)
what year is your truck?

2010

soaringfalcon 10-13-2015 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by gjboor89 (Post 4368857)
2010

Unfortunatley not, that option did not become available until the 2011 model year.

CWL7454 10-14-2015 05:48 PM

unavailable
 
Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock

Ford Edge: 2011-2014, Ford Explorer: 2011-2015, Ford F150: 2011-2014, Ford F250/350/450: 2011-2015, Ford Flex: 2011-2015, Ford Focus: 2010-2011, Ford Fusion: 2010-2012, Ford Mustang: 2010-2014, Ford Taurus: 2008-2013

bmw010 10-16-2015 12:40 AM

Ordered mine today, Does anyone have a link to the youtube video for install????

Brandon L Thompson 10-16-2015 09:38 AM

Ordered mine Tuesday.

EcoBoostJake 10-16-2015 10:05 AM

So I received my remote start in the mail on Tuesday and got down to installing it last night. As others have said, save yourself time and just watch the 7 minute video online. The one referenced on the install guide did not come up, however the one I linked below worked for me.

I believe the install took me around 45 minutes, however I had trouble getting my keys programed. The video does a great job with the step by step, but after my blue light would flash, a yellow light would come on. I found a forum page that stated this was normal, and then another one that stated I need to plug the unit into my computer and adjust software. (there were no included materials to plug into a computer, simply the materials to install the unit in the truck) FYI - when I had successfully installed and programed everything, my doors locked and the red/blue lights flashed for a second or so.

I uninstalled, reinstalled and programed my keys around 3 times before giving up to get dinner. After dinner I pulled the truck into the driveway and for ****s n giggles hit the lock 3 times before going back inside. Low and behold after around 5-10 seconds the truck magically started right up.

My only conclusion is that when I unplugged my horn before dinner to stop annoying my wife, it somehow stopped the starting process. After dinner I plugged the horn back in before moving the truck outside. That was the only change between my failed starts and successful start.


I still have to put my steering column and lower dash back together, but I am very happy with the product thus far. I may even try unplugging my horn again to see if it will stop the truck from starting.

I would certainly recommend this to anyone who wishes to avoid going the more expensive OEM route.


Good luck everyone,



bmw010 10-16-2015 11:28 AM

So when programming the keys, do you turn the ignition all the way on (as in crank the engine) or just into accessory mode???

If someone would post a step by step for the key process that would be awesome seeing as that's a problem people are having. otherwise I'll post one once I figure it out.

stan5686 10-16-2015 02:07 PM

If you want a remote start that works, you better order it from some where! I ordered mine on my 2012 F150 and I'm not happy with it at all. Range is terrible. I found out, too late I might add, that Ford has several remote types, models, etc. I didn't know that the one that you got on my truck was different from others that came from the factory. At the 3rd dealer I talked to about this I learned that the best option would be to buy a remote start from the dealer and get it installed, programed and so forth there as Ford has about 4 different remotes and unless you do a lot of research you won't know which sys. you'll be getting on which vehicle. I spent several hundred dollars that would have been better put toward an after market starter.

prlesp 10-16-2015 02:18 PM

Question on horn
 
I watched the video and noticed at the end that the horn went off as the lock bottom was pushed second and third time. I know this is normal for a stock truck, but does the remote starter do this also? Does the horn still honk on press two and three if you are starting it? I never thought of that as I read the thread. Watching the video made me aware of it. Is there a way to silence the horn for just the remote starter?
Thanks

soaringfalcon 10-16-2015 02:37 PM

Only reason I went with the Ford long range two way starter is because it controls the HVAC system in the truck, has a 1/2 mile range and gives me a confirmation of start. Also at $350 installed it was cheaper than the similar Viper system I was looking at.

Here are all the options that Ford offers for the 2009-2014 F150.

For 2009-2010:
- The 100 series one way (separate keyfob)
- The 100 Series two way (separate keyfob)
- The 200 Series two way with security system (separate keyfob) (Note: it also works with 2011-2014 trucks but not recommended as the new modular system is much better)

For 2011-2014:
- The 100 series, that comes with two new keys with integrated remote start
Then they have the modular system that can be configured as:
- Vehicle Security System only
- VSS with one way long range remote start (separate keyfob)
- VSS with two-way long range remote start (separate keyfob)
- VSS with remote app access (iPhone or Android)

If you do not care about the HVAC or the long range, then any remote starter will work.

EcoBoostJake 10-16-2015 03:18 PM

The kit comes with a step by step, however I found the video to be the best guide.

Yes the horn still honks on the second and third lock, just like before installation.

No you do not need to crank the engine, just turn each key to the run position for around 3 seconds. Once you have programed both keys and put the original key back in and turned it to the run position, the remote starter will flash for a few seconds, and you will hear the doors lock and the horn beep. (hence why I unplugged my horn when I started having to retry these steps at 10pm at night with the wife up stairs)


I have not tried any long range starts, but so long as you can activate your door lock, then the truck will start. It is certainly not 1/2 mile range, but if you park near your office or house, I am sure you can start it without going outside. I think my truck connects with my key at around 100 yards. No idea how far it would work from if I replaced the battery in my remote.

Tylerl66 10-17-2015 09:47 AM

I ordered my remote start and received it Wednesday. Installation was very straight forward and so was the programming (especially with the 7min video).
However my Evoall was faulty.
So after a phone call to Paul he 2 day Aired a new kit. I recived the new kit which on accident was the crime stopper lc1, it has the ability to program the factory key and has its own antenna and remote for extended range starting.

Overall I achieved my goal of keeping the factory key fob and enabling remote start.

Range is ok but that wasn't my priority
Overall simple and great alternative to having the dealer install

rabbitgtdguy 10-18-2015 02:51 PM

I just posted about this particular setup...I am looking into the Fortin EVOALL with the Ford T harness. Looks to make installation quick and easy.

I have been looking at the various Ford setups, etc. wanting to add OEM, etc. but our dealer is horrible and probably would charge me $150+ just to get the keys working. That....for the limitations of the system. Stinks.

Had also looked at the Viper Smart Start. But, SmartStart as standalone limits function to subscription cell service, etc.

However, then I was looking around and found the Fortin on Crutchfield. Did more digging in...not only can we use our factory fob (click 3 times lock for start), you can also add other RF modules to this unit to expand its capabilities.

In particular, I'm interested in adding the DEI SmartStart (guys that make Vipers for them) module to this unit. THEN...would be able to remote start from FOB or from smartphone app when out of FOB range.

Plus, retains OEM alarm functions, lock, unlock, etc.

For the price (I have it and the flash loader (required to update firmware and change settings)), I think I might take the dive and give it a try.

You guys that have installed seem happy with it!

Joe

RLucky82 10-19-2015 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk (Post 4359990)
For those copy and paste challenged... Plug and Play Remote Start


Funny :no: :thumbsup:

Daniejw 10-19-2015 08:04 PM

Has anyone attempted to hook up the parking lights?
The instructions show which wire to use on the unit. Just don't know where to connect to on the truck. Does a relay need to be installed too?

Installed everything today without any issues today. Always enjoyed having the running lights on while running.

rabbitgtdguy 10-19-2015 08:53 PM

Does the link above include the actual flash loader? I know it is pre-flashed with our vehicle info/setup, etc. however, to change settings, add other rf modules, etc. you have to have that flash loader to do it.

Crutch field has the setup with t harness + 50% off the flashloader itself for less than $150 all total.

Think I am going to take the dive this evening.

Joe

EcoBoostJake 10-20-2015 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by rabbitgtdguy (Post 4378343)
Does the link above include the actual flash loader? I know it is pre-flashed with our vehicle info/setup, etc. however, to change settings, add other rf modules, etc. you have to have that flash loader to do it.

Crutch field has the setup with t harness + 50% off the flashloader itself for less than $150 all total.

Think I am going to take the dive this evening.

Joe

The one that I purchased and was linked on the first page did not have the flash loader. It was $110 for the harness and it did come preloaded ready to run my truck.

rabbitgtdguy 10-20-2015 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by EcoBoostJake (Post 4378922)
The one that I purchased and was linked on the first page did not have the flash loader. It was $110 for the harness and it did come preloaded ready to run my truck.

Gotcha! I went ahead and got the crutch field one with the flash loader as I may add a smart start module down the line and may do the same unit for the wife's vw. Will be handy to have if that is the case.

Joe

Al Czervik Construct 10-20-2015 10:41 AM

Diasble Horn Honk?
 
Installed in less than an hour. The YouTube video is extremely helpful. Seems like a great deal!

One question though. Can you disable the horn honk?

bmw010 10-20-2015 02:21 PM

Installed last night in about 45 mins. I dont like that it honks the horn every time but ti is what it is. so far I'm happy with it for the price

rabbitgtdguy 10-20-2015 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by bmw010 (Post 4379322)
Installed last night in about 45 mins. I dont like that it honks the horn every time but ti is what it is. so far I'm happy with it for the price

I am betting that this might be able to be disabled in the flash programmer. I bought the flash unit with mine, will be able to tell more when it comes!

Daniejw 10-20-2015 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Daniejw (Post 4378261)
Has anyone attempted to hook up the parking lights?
The instructions show which wire to use on the unit. Just don't know where to connect to on the truck. Does a relay need to be installed too?

Installed everything today without any issues today. Always enjoyed having the running lights on while running.

Bueller?

EcoBoostJake 10-21-2015 04:49 PM

I would love to know what options you gain with the flash programmer. I do not mind the horn honk, but I would like to program it to require 4x locks. Even better would be if I could use the unlock button 3 times to start it! Then I wouldn't have to unlock the doors as I leave the house.

As for Bueller Dan, I am unsure what your request is. When my truck starts the lights come on and stay on. Grant it I have not started it during the day when the automatic lights would not kick on. Are you looking to have the running lights on anytime the truck is running?

Daniejw 10-21-2015 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by EcoBoostJake (Post 4381181)
I would love to know what options you gain with the flash programmer. I do not mind the horn honk, but I would like to program it to require 4x locks. Even better would be if I could use the unlock button 3 times to start it! Then I wouldn't have to unlock the doors as I leave the house.

As for Bueller Dan, I am unsure what your request is. When my truck starts the lights come on and stay on. Grant it I have not started it during the day when the automatic lights would not kick on. Are you looking to have the running lights on anytime the truck is running?

Yes, I'd like the parking lights to come on.
I asked if anyone has hooked up their parking lights, and if they could enlighten me as to where they tapped into and how they did it.
I don't have the auto light feature on my truck. Besides, that would only turn the lights on at night.

soaringfalcon 10-22-2015 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by Daniejw (Post 4381531)
Yes, I'd like the parking lights to come on.
I asked if anyone has hooked up their parking lights, and if they could enlighten me as to where they tapped into and how they did it.
I don't have the auto light feature on my truck. Besides, that would only turn the lights on at night.

Here is some info from Remote start forums

http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/...asp?tid=137223

http://www.commandocaralarms.com/wir...tduty/787.html

rabbitgtdguy 10-22-2015 06:15 PM

Good news guys...

Looks like we may be able to disable the horn honk with this system as long as you have the flash updater.

With the baby girl right now feeder her dinner and such while mom is out getting hair done...but did get this today and hooked it up to my MBA to see what options we have.

Shot of the flashloader and unit..

And check out the configurable option I provided in the pic.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...5ab4a4e22.jpeg

EcoBoostJake 10-23-2015 08:49 AM

Thank you Rabbit!


Looks like we have the option of lock, unlock, lock to trigger the start. I think I would like this a little better. Although it also looks like we are already programed to run for 15 minutes and then shutdown. So if I did accidentally start the truck, it wouldn't run all day.


Wish I had an answer for you Dan. Hope it is in the other forums that Falcon linked to. Good luck,

cwsartain 10-23-2015 09:21 AM

I installed mine this week and it works like a charm. The only thing that I don't like about it is that you don't have to lock the door 3 times within a certain amount of time. You can lock the doors once every 3 hours and on the third lock, the truck is going to crank up.

rabbitgtdguy 10-23-2015 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by EcoBoostJake (Post 4383470)
Thank you Rabbit!


Looks like we have the option of lock, unlock, lock to trigger the start. I think I would like this a little better. Although it also looks like we are already programed to run for 15 minutes and then shutdown. So if I did accidentally start the truck, it wouldn't run all day.


Wish I had an answer for you Dan. Hope it is in the other forums that Falcon linked to. Good luck,

Well, we will have to see. That was just at first glance.

I played with it a little more last night configure the settings and when clicking on the HORN, etc. to adjust/unclick, etc. and the horn itself wasn't able to be disabled. It would force you to choose between HORN or SIREN. At least...with what I have played with so far.

That said, under the remote start, there may be a way to avoid the horn but still remote start.

Instead of "Press Lock 3", it looks like we may have the option to do a different lock sequence.

"Lock-Unlock-Lock" is an option. I haven't tried to click it for our example with the trucks, but if that was the case we'd be able to remote start and the horn wouldn't sound in that sequence (but doors would still lock) because of the lock-unlock-lock combo.

It may be a solution.

Went back to check it out last night and I can't get the flash loader to connect to the Fortin module. Hoping I don't have a bad one.

Joe

soaringfalcon 10-23-2015 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by rabbitgtdguy (Post 4383567)
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Went back to check it out last night and I can't get the flash loader to connect to the Fortin module. Hoping I don't have a bad one.

Joe


Did you remove the remote start module from the truck to program it?
From what I can tell, the module must be plugged into the truck when you link it for it to work, otherwise it has no power.

Also, I noticed that you are running Windows on a Mac Book, is that using Bootcamp or is it running on a VM? If it is on a VM, it could be that the Fortin Flash-link Updater is not compatible with the USB passthrough used with that VM.

rabbitgtdguy 10-23-2015 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by soaringfalcon (Post 4383753)
Did you remove the remote start module from the truck to program it?
From what I can tell, the module must be plugged into the truck when you link it for it to work, otherwise it has no power.

Also, I noticed that you are running Windows on a Mac Book, is that using Bootcamp or is it running on a VM? If it is on a VM, it could be that the Fortin Flash-link Updater is not compatible with the USB passthrough used with that VM.

This was the unit by itself. It was able to connect (before installing in truck) to the updater as well. It just didn't do it when I went back to it 2 hours later.

My MBA is running on VMWare and Win7. Seemed to work fine the first time. Thinking about what you were thinking though, I did try it on my desktop PC. Same issue. No luck. Problem itself seems to be with the updater.

Crutchfield seems to think the same thing when I gave them a call this AM. They are sending me a new updater and I'm hoping that is the issue (not the Fortin unit itself) as I'd like to install it this afternoon after I get home from work.

We will see! Hoping the remote start unit itself isn't "bum". All the solder connections look good, etc. though.

Joe

crabio 10-23-2015 01:39 PM

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rabbitgtdguy 10-24-2015 08:55 PM

So, great news to report here for all of you guys. Fairly new here but hope this is the start of many contributions :)

That said, despite the fact that I was having connections issues with the FlashLoader2 that I bought in addition to the remote start unit mentioned in the OP's thread here...I can say that the remote start is installed, functional and activates WITH NO HORN.

By default, these are the options that are chosen for you by the programmer at FORTIN or whoever programs these as the middle man. Additionally, mine actually had a flash date of this month and was one .x9 newer than whatever the listed firmware release was for our applications. So, I didn't do any updating there. I finally was able to get the flash loader to work after reading some "finky" connection issues others were having with the flash units themselves.

Thats interesting here is the fact that by default the Fortin remote start upon connecting with the remote start unit loads in "bypass mode". At the lower left of the screen when you go into look at the units options, it allows you to Toggle, Flash, Quit.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...1f1139e215.jpg

From all the reading I did, this is still a bypass unit and where you would really want to be "messing" with the options themselves. Going to the options choice here brings you to the same screen I post here in an earlier post...


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...09e5853ed5.jpg


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...196cd4685c.jpg

I was however able to toggle it to the remote start mode and it has its own crazy number of options as well. I wanted to work with what I knew at the moment...so I left it here.

The horn...it sounded annoying from all your posts. I didn't want it and its ONE reason I bought this flash unit to go with the rest of it. Plus, have considered adding a SmartStart module in the future (this Fortin will allow that) but...we'll see.

The first configuration that I tried before I even installed it in the truck was to click the standalone remote start uncheck the "3 times Lock-by default" (leaving it unchecked) and clicking the "lock-unlock-lock" option. Then, proceeded outside to install it in the truck.

After watching the YouTube video and figuring the few wires from the FOR-T1 t harness itself that actually had to be connected (I didn't do parking lights this round, but probably will), I had it all installed, programmed well, etc. When to click "lock-unlock-lock".....no dice. No start. Hmm...

Got to thinking about that options menu again. Went back inside...fiddled with the connection to get the flash loader to work again and connect to the Fortin.

This time...went back into unit options in bypass mode, RECHECKED the standalone remote start option (which unlocks the ability to change options), and proceeded to RECHECK the following

since the sequence is 3 clicks (no matter which way you do it) I checked

-Stand-alone Enable (3x lock...the default that I had unchecked before)
AND
-lock-unlock-lock

This time, saving the options there and going out to reprogram the module again. Went super quick this time!

All programmed. gave 3 times lock a try....honk-honk-BINGO.........START.

Checked doors of truck...they were locked (good) of course. Unlocked from my fob, tested brake cut off....worked. Did 3x lock a couple more times to test out the hood pin (no connection needed) kill, and to make sure turning the key in WOULDN't kill the ignition...all worked perfectly.

Worked. BONUS. Was reading through as well and you can KILL the remote start with the same 3x sequence. Works! A nice thing if you decide that you don't want it to run for 15min (or whatever you set it to if you have the flash unit).

But....THAT DAMN HORN.

Well, remember. I also checked lock-unlock-lock.

This time around. Armed OEM alarm system, locked doors, etc. Gave the other sequence a try. VIOLA!!! lock-unlock-lock...heard an audible click of the ignition and the engine started up, remote start activated with NO HORN!!! Worked perfectly. Doors still locked, all the kills worked for it and the same sequence can kill the remote start as well!

For the price...this thing is AWESOME! No extra fobs, keychains or worries. Works as advertised.

So, if you have the flash loader for it, you can change the unit settings and get rid of the horn by using this sequence.

Sad to say that disabling the horn in the options menu isn't a choice. I did try and it FORCES you to choice horn or siren. BUT the above change to the sequence still starts the truck, has NO horn and still leaves the doors locked. PERFECT.

So, NO HORN and you can start it two different ways.

That said. One gripe. I didn't go ahead and do the parking lights today as mentioned above. I need to learn more about the plugs and connections at the BCM because Fortin's layouts aren't exactly the best IMHO. I'm also curious about the Lock, Unlock, door pin connection as well that it almost looks like they want you to connect (that I didn't in my case). You can see them below.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...566fba2f99.jpg

I'm not sure what the purpose of them is (unless it does have to do with arming the perimeter alarm itself from the OEM system). I'm really not worried about that fact in the remote start mode as long as the KILLS work for the remote start and most of all...the doors lock (which they do without these other connections).

Parking lights will be the next task. I just want to make sure I'd have the RIGHT plug on the BCM to do it. Hope this is insightful!

Joe

(P.S.) If you are non-PC. This will work on a PC or a MAC as long as you have a client for creating a virtual machine (VMWARE in my case). I messed with this during the morning on my home PC but then when I made the final adjustments...I was using the MAC again since it was portable. The connection problems I was having are due to the flash loader itself (to which I already have an RMA for from Crutchfield and a replacement on the way since this one is spotty. They have had awesome CS for both F150 projects I have done lately!

jay_g 10-26-2015 10:00 AM

Is this the one we want?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fortin-EVO-A...QAAOSwcu5UOThr

EcoBoostJake 10-26-2015 11:06 AM

I do not know if that one will work or not. It does not appear to be 100% identical to the unit that I installed.



rabbitgtdguy 10-26-2015 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by EcoBoostJake (Post 4387337)
I do not know if that one will work or not. It does not appear to be 100% identical to the unit that I installed.


Amazon.com : Factory OEM Remote Activated Plug and Play Remote Start for Select 2008-2014 Ford : Electronics

Mine was the EvoAll with the Ford t harness...looks the same by the description. Two or three links have been posted earlier in this thread for reliable links.

Joe

Al Czervik Construct 10-26-2015 01:28 PM

My buddy has the programmer. Im just not sure i want to take everything apart just to eliminate the honk. I wish i knew before install.

Rfs2005 10-26-2015 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by cwsartain (Post 4383505)
I installed mine this week and it works like a charm. The only thing that I don't like about it is that you don't have to lock the door 3 times within a certain amount of time. You can lock the doors once every 3 hours and on the third lock, the truck is going to crank up.

I tried locking the doors slowly enough to avoid the horn honking, but it didn't start. Your's starts regardless of how fast you press the lock button? I was hoping that this would be an easy work-around for the horn.

c00lman 10-30-2015 03:40 PM

Just installed the remote last night, the install was ok. just took some time in troubleshooting as the unit was not responding as indicated on the install manual LOL

After a while of reading the manual and searching the fortin site, noticed that there are 3 wires from the EVO ALL that need to be connected to the T harness.

Big Yellow on the installation instruction LOL
Make the connection between the UNIT and the T-HARNESS
Effectuez les branchements entre le MODULE et le HARNAIS EN T.
Yellow/Black
Yellow (Not connected)
Lt. Blue/Black
Lt. Blue

After I connected those 3. It's ALIVE lol. Range could be better but it's nice to start the car while inside the house and it's snowing outside LOL

Quick question to all that have installed it, on the installation manual there are some picture regarding hood pin and some connection to the BCM. do we need to connect those wires?

Thanks

EcoBoostJake 10-30-2015 04:22 PM

I have a question to see if anyone else has noticed this yet. If my truck is already locked, it will start with two presses instead of the three as called out in the manual. However if the truck is unlocked, it requires the 3rd press as normal. Has anyone else noticed this, or am I special?

rabbitgtdguy 10-30-2015 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by EcoBoostJake (Post 4394079)
I have a question to see if anyone else has noticed this yet. If my truck is already locked, it will start with two presses instead of the three as called out in the manual. However if the truck is unlocked, it requires the 3rd press as normal. Has anyone else noticed this, or am I special?

Yeah, that will work because it sees the arming lock as a "lock" and the lock sequence itself doesn't timeout unless you abort the sequence by pressing unlock, etc.

I am glad I set mine to lock-unlock-lock to avoid horn (but in this mode it will still start on the default lock-lock-lock too)

I am going to do the parking lights this weekend. Looks straight forward and easy to do. Have a ton of relays too!

Joe

broderp 10-30-2015 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by Joeyz85 (Post 4359445)
Well I ordered a "plug and play" remote start off amazon and wow I'm impressed. It uses my factory key fobs and took 15 min start to finish to install. No trip to pay the dealer to activate. You press lock three times and it's starts. I was amazed at how simple its was and would recommend this as a alternative to the 100 series oem set up . I paid $106 minus a $50 gift card I had. So $56 and 15 min of my time.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NBC...KsL&ref=plSrch


You guys with newer trucks get all the cool stuff. :blush:
(So jealous)

rabbitgtdguy 10-31-2015 03:55 PM

Good news. Have this finished and installed completely the way I want it now.

Today...added the parking light relay and wiring today. Made my own harness, heat shrunk, soldered, taped and tucked away with zip ties above BCM.

-Used a "53" headlight relay (have a ton of them from my VW/Audi hobby).
-pulled power for the relay off the the passenger side 12v socket (constant power).

Other than that, wiring relay was as per the Fortin diagram and was easy. Hardest part was running the wire to the d side (for connection on Fortin module).

Works as you would expect as well. Tails, makers and parks on with remote start and also give you a visual confirmation it's started (nice for me since I use the lock-unlock-lock sequence and avoid the horn).

Easy to do. Functional too! Now this is perfect!

Joe

crabio 10-31-2015 08:32 PM

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Well I'm having a hell of a time here. Here's the main issue I'm having. The picture that I've attached shows on the top the ignition plug (the red one). The one on the bottom is the ignition plug on the T Harness that's suppose to connect where I unplugged the red one from. Well, the one on the bottom won't plug in. It slides up in the plug but will not seat. I tried putting gentle pressure and it aint budging. I know better than to try and force it.

2013 Ford F150 XLT

So ... Have I just been sent the wrong unit? Am I missing something?

Attachment 399897

Joeyz85 11-02-2015 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by crabio (Post 4395481)
Well I'm having a hell of a time here. Here's the main issue I'm having. The picture that I've attached shows on the top the ignition plug (the red one). The one on the bottom is the ignition plug on the T Harness that's suppose to connect where I unplugged the red one from. Well, the one on the bottom won't plug in. It slides up in the plug but will not seat. I tried putting gentle pressure and it aint budging. I know better than to try and force it.

2013 Ford F150 XLT

So ... Have I just been sent the wrong unit? Am I missing something?

Attachment 399897

I def had the same problem and I had to really apply some pressure to get that plug to click in . Give it a firm push and it'll go

rabbitgtdguy 11-02-2015 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by Joeyz85 (Post 4397175)
I def had the same problem and I had to really apply some pressure to get that plug to click in . Give it a firm push and it'll go

Same here. Almost felt like it caught from the get-go. Went from a different angle with a solid push and it snapped right in.

Joe

LOP 11-02-2015 07:26 AM

Ya need a bigger hammer!;)

crabio 11-02-2015 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by Joeyz85 (Post 4397175)
I def had the same problem and I had to really apply some pressure to get that plug to click in . Give it a firm push and it'll go

Thanks for the help. Yep. That was the ticket! Wiggle ... jiggle .... cuss a little and BAM !!!! In she went nice and firm !

Wait ... We're still talking about remote start installations right? :eek:

cmbezln 11-09-2015 05:31 PM

I think i bought the last of these things, shows unavailble now.

cmbezln 11-10-2015 10:24 AM

I spent 20 minutes typing a huge paragraph of points that were missing from the video, but the stupid forum had an error when i went to submit and ill be damned if i write all that again.

Ok actually the one point that i want to bring up (so someone doesnt ruin their truck) is: A few people here suggest muscling the replacement main ignition plug into the port to get it to go in, don't do that. What you want to do is find the correct angle to apply pressure to. In my truck, I had to back it out, then apply pressure at the top of the plug with pressure directed toward the driver's rear of the truck. Doing that while wiggling it around a bit got it to eventually snap into place.

Also, when you're putting your plastic column cover back on, there are hooks in the back of it that need to snap in place first, otherwise you're gonna bend tabs.

crabio 11-10-2015 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by cmbezln (Post 4409232)
I spent 20 minutes typing a huge paragraph of points that were missing from the video, but the stupid forum had an error when i went to submit and ill be damned if i write all that again.

Ok actually the one point that i want to bring up (so someone doesnt ruin their truck) is: A few people here suggest muscling the replacement main ignition plug into the port to get it to go in, don't do that. What you want to do is find the correct angle to apply pressure to. In my truck, I had to back it out, then apply pressure at the top of the plug with pressure directed toward the driver's rear of the truck. Doing that while wiggling it around a bit got it to eventually snap into place.

Also, when you're putting your plastic column cover back on, there are hooks in the back of it that need to snap in place first, otherwise you're gonna bend tabs.

Excellent points cmbezln. I have a bad habit of getting frustrated when something doesn't fit and have a tendency to just say "%$#% it!" and go for it and end up breaking something. I knew right away that I had best be very very patient with that plug because if I messed that up, I'd be in some serious trouble.

I also agree about putting the plastic cover back on the steering column. Slow and steady wins that race too.

I am amazed that some people could get this thing installed in 15 minutes. Hell, it took me 15 minutes to organize all the tools I'd need. :whistling2:

Joeyz85 11-10-2015 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by crabio (Post 4409258)
Excellent points cmbezln. I have a bad habit of getting frustrated when something doesn't fit and have a tendency to just say "%$#% it!" and go for it and end up breaking something. I knew right away that I had best be very very patient with that plug because if I messed that up, I'd be in some serious trouble.

I also agree about putting the plastic cover back on the steering column. Slow and steady wins that race too.

I am amazed that some people could get this thing installed in 15 minutes. Hell, it took me 15 minutes to organize all the tools I'd need. :whistling2:

Wait 15 min to organize 3 nut drivers ....
I too am amazed lol :eek:

cmbezln 11-10-2015 04:35 PM

Yeah it definitely took me a lot longer than 15 minutes organizing and working with hand tools. Wasnt easy working down in the footwell either, on the count of me being fat.


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